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| Video referee gave two tries and disallowed one in Tonga vs Scotland on benefit of the doubt for the tries or uncertainty for the disallowed. In all instances the video referee had not enough camera angles. The worst case was the try awarded to the Scotland full back where it was not clear that the ball had touched the chalk because the video ref could not see a side angle. Sky could have done better because they have more cameras.
Of course Premier Sports commentary with main callers Andrew Voss or Dave Woods, plus analysis from Brian Noble, Shaun Edwards, Robby Hunter-Paul, and Darryl Halligan, has been outstanding (the third English caller for the Fiji game was weak, and could not pronounce Civinoceva). But that does not rectify or have any bearing on the serious problem we have of referees getting the right decision on try scoring.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Video referee gave three tries in Tonga vs Scotland on benefit of the doubt. In all instances the video referee had not enough camera angles. The worst case was the try awarded to the Scotland full back where it was not clear that the ball had touched the chalk because the video ref could not see a side angle. Sky could have done better because they have more cameras.
Of course Premier Sports commentary with main callers Andrew Voss or Dave Woods, plus analysis from Brian Noble, Shaun Edwards, Robby Hunter-Paul, and Darryl Halligan, has been outstanding (the third English caller for the Fiji game was weak, and could not pronounce Civinoceva). But that does not rectify or have any bearing on the serious problem we have of referees getting the right decision on try scoring.'"
The ball clearly touch the line
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| It was pretty obvious to me that the Matty Russell effort hit the line. I think Ashley Klein was more of a problem than camera angles.
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| Don't think premier sports supply the cameramen, think they just commentate from the pictures, like the game at millennium stadium was simulcast on bbc and both images pictures where identical.
Hardly premier sports fault anyway, if the games where not on tv who would you blame then cos I'm sure there would be VR at the non televised games also.
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| Give it a rest.
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| Quote Who are ya!!="Who are ya!!"The ball clearly touch the line'"
Quote Who are ya!!="Robbo"It was pretty obvious to me that the Matty Russell effort hit the line. I think Ashley Klein was more of a problem than camera angles.'"
How could you both be so sure if you had no side angle? The video referee wanted a side angle but couldn't get it.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Video referee gave two tries and siallowed one in Tonga vs Scotland on benefit of the doubt for the tries or uncertainty for the disallowed. In all instances the video referee had not enough camera angles. The worst case was the try awarded to the Scotland full back where it was not clear that the ball had touched the chalk because the video ref could not see a side angle. Sky could have done better because they have more cameras.
Of course Premier Sports commentary with main callers Andrew Voss or Dave Woods, plus analysis from Brian Noble, Shaun Edwards, Robby Hunter-Paul, and Darryl Halligan, has been outstanding (the third English caller for the Fiji game was weak, and could not pronounce Civinoceva). But that does not rectify or have any bearing on the serious problem we have of referees getting the right decision on try scoring.'" I would appear that you are as blind as Ashley Klein is. It was as clear as daylight on the line.
Do us a favour and stop trying to find controversy where there isn't any.
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| I believe the problem they have is not just lack of camera angles, but the small screens they have to use in the video van.
Talked to a Ref whose done both this and SKY and he said its like going from using a 50"plasma to a black and white portable comapring the 2 set ups
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| Quote Anakin Skywalker="Anakin Skywalker"I would appear that you are as blind as Ashley Klein is. It was as clear as daylight on the line.
Do us a favour and stop trying to find controversy where there isn't any.'"
The Matthew Russell try [iwas [/icontroversial.
This was a game that was decided on uncertainties. It would not have happened in the NRL where Channel 9 and Fox cameras offer enough angles for the video refs.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How could you both be so sure if you had no side angle? The video referee wanted a side angle but couldn't get it.'"
The video was paused at the point the ball hit the line. I have no doubt the ball hit the line.
Now the try at the end of the game.... which arguably could have been given but wasn't was down to Klein, not camera angles.
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| I'm actually embarrassed for you Jean.
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| Quote Premier Sports' lack of cameras is influencing outcomes[size=150=#FF0000Definition of embarrassment in English[/size
embarrassment
Pronunciation: /ɪmˈbarəsmənt, ɛm-/
[inoun[/i
a feeling of self-consciousness, shame, or awkwardness:
Example: [iI turned red with embarrassment[/i
Typical use: [isee "Premier Sports' lack of cameras is influencing outcomes" thread on RLFans by Jean Capdouze[/i'"
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