When Wakefield played Bradford a few weeks back I left the game wondering just how we'd lost. I thought we played well enough to win. Yet Bradford showed real grit and desperation and took the game. It was I thought at the time an unusual effort by Bradfords recent standards. With certain big name players putting in performances that in some cases had been absent for years. Then they did it again against HKR who are a much better team then against Saints who even with Simmons in charge should easily beat the Bulls.

Now we know, shop window time - reckon the players have known for a while. So no Bulls on field resurgence after all just mercenaries selling themselves.

So Huddersfield are going bust next because they're winning games? As a fan I'd be disappointed if the players weren't giving their all at any game, not just so they can get a new club.

Vastman, you crack me up.

C-, must try harder.

I'll explain the hard, cold facts to you because you're either missing them deliberately, or you're an idiot. The players did not know the clubs financial difficulties until yesterday morning - the desperate situation only became aware to the very top of the club last week when RBS withdrew the clubs overdraft.

So, despite your best efforts in your imagination that Wakefield lost a game of rugby due to some mitigating circumstances, they didn't. They lost because they weren't good enough.

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Quality thread, or complete load of

Thankfully, we lost last Sunday.

Hold on there AaronBull! Little vasty may be onto something.

A couple of years ago the wakey team were so keen to show their support for Ted, John Kear and the wildcats that they lost 50 nil to the Giants on Sky.....They obviously did not want to sign elsewhere....how's that for commitment!

On this reckoning, London players must be on contracts until 2020

Absolute Kn0b! Get back under your bridge

so did Bradford!

Now we know...

Great thread vastman. We do all need a bit of a laugh after this weeks dreadful news.