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| Quote ="Adeybull"If you want to understand more about the wider history behind the LOTR it is essential reading. It is actually a collection of several separate works, which together help make much of the historical background to LOTR clear.
It covers the first and second ages, and to be honest is mostly one long tale of how in the first age Morgoth gradually destroys all the realms of elves and men in Middle Earth, one by one and so can be a bit depressing. Till in the end, when all looks finally lost, Earendil secures salvation from the West and Morgoth is cast out forever. Earendil's sons were Elrond and Elros, btw and from Elros ultimately came Isildur and Aragorn.
And then Sauron, Morgoth's lieutenant, does it all again in the second age, till he too gets cast down by Isildur. But, as Arnie said, "I'll be back..."
Sounds a bit like the Bulls, in fact!'"
Cheers Adey, Who is the Necromancer? Is it Morgoth?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Cheers Adey, Who is the Necromancer? Is it Morgoth?'"
Sauron
Sauron is BAD...but Morgoth goes several orders of magnitude beyond bad.
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| Just a thought forum members:
Will anyone get any sleep on Friday night?
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| I intend to get extremely drunk and wake up two days later.
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| why would you want to sleep after taking two points off leeds?
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Just a thought forum members:
Will anyone get any sleep on Friday night?'"
I'll be that p155ed I'll probably just pass out to be honest.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Just a thought forum members:
Will anyone get any sleep on Friday night?'"
Friday yes, I'll be drunk enough to sleep anyhwhere.
Thursday night however might be more of an issue.
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| Quote ="Duckman"Friday yes, I'll be drunk enough to sleep anyhwhere.
Thursday night however might be more of an issue.'"
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| Quote ="AaronBull"This.'"
Nar. 48 hour bender, starting Thursday at 6pm.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"Nar. 48 hour bender, starting Thursday at 6pm.'"
I wish I could join you.
Unfortunately I don't want John Ledger revoking my RFL press accreditation
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| Pledging, after some serious consideration, hoping we both make it and that this heralds change.
I'd like the Bulls to be the people's club for real, and think the response to the pledge shows that we could achieve that, just a shame that we've not been given that opportunity, and haven't felt strong enough to take it, just yet.
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Quote ="MicktheGled"I wish I could join you.
Unfortunately I don't want John Ledger revoking my RFL press accreditation
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I forgot that old reprobate of a hack ended up at Sod Hall. he never liked the Bulls when at Yorkshire Post, funnily enough passing his poison pen to a certain Dave Craven.
Well I expect the reason Sod Hall have stayed in the background is partly due to him.
We have enemies everywhere it seems. Oh for some friendly Hobbits and a powerful Wizard!
A modicum of good news
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... r/?ref=rss
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Unfortunately I don't want John Ledger revoking my RFL press accreditation
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I forgot that old reprobate of a hack ended up at Sod Hall. he never liked the Bulls when at Yorkshire Post, funnily enough passing his poison pen to a certain Dave Craven.
Well I expect the reason Sod Hall have stayed in the background is partly due to him.
We have enemies everywhere it seems. Oh for some friendly Hobbits and a powerful Wizard!
A modicum of good news
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... r/?ref=rss
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| Caisley, Coulby,Agar, Tasker, Noble, Preston.
Seems a pretty organised bunch! Should shake things up and a egm to remove hood and Bennett.
Is this just what we need?
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| The plot thickens.....or we finally get to see the hand of one the key players (like it or not). Interesting timing. Interesting too that Ryan seems to be trusted by both camps.
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| Certainly interesting timing. Waits till it looks like current board have done mostbof hard work and likely to succeed or at least get very close to target then cones in on his White charger and takes the credit. Wonder if this review of footballing side would involve him selling any players he happens to agent off?.
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| I am guessing that if he becomes active again at the club, he would not represent any players directly.
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| Quote ="isaac1"I am guessing that if he becomes active again at the club, he would not represent any players directly.'"
Not sure why you think that! But it would not be in the club's best interests for him to be brokering the sale of it's assets. But it might be in the interest's of lining his pocket.
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| Quote ="mat"Certainly interesting timing. Waits till it looks like current board have done mostbof hard work and likely to succeed or at least get very close to target then cones in on his White charger and takes the credit. Wonder if this review of footballing side would involve him selling any players he happens to agent off?.'"
Good valid points there Matt.
Although Caisley aside I do like the plan from Agar and Preston to involve Tasker and Noble.
Rolland Agar might not be the man with an unlimited supply of money, but such a financial investment would certainly see us on the road to recovery.
From what I've heard he would be the new face and voice of the club.
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| What's Rolland Agar's background ?? Know he is one of the shareholders who used to be on hte BoD but stepped down to streamline things. Apart from that I know nowt ! Cheers
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| Isn't he a wholesale butcher based in Ilkley? IIRC he came onto board around 96?
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| Quote ="staffbull1973"What's Rolland Agar's background ?? Know he is one of the shareholders who used to be on hte BoD but stepped down to streamline things. Apart from that I know nowt ! Cheers'"
He owns a slaughterhouse in Ilkley. It's quite upsetting for Fifi Trixiebell when the butler drives her past in the Bentley hearing all the cuddly sheep saying their last goodbyes.
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| Very interesting report
It's obvious from the piece that there's no prospect of Caisley and Hood sitting down around the table and smoking the pipes of peace - we are looking at one or t' other
To be honest, I find myself feeling a bit sorry for Peter Hood this morning. He picked up the mantle when nobody else wanted to, and has had to steer the club through the problems that - to a large extent - were caused by Caisley the last time around. Now we see the 'old guard' circling around looking to take control again. Peter Hood could very well find himself shunted to one side and remembered - unfairly - as the guy who led the club through its darkest days.
Also I can't help wondering whether Caisley and his cronies were rather hoping that the pledge would be a spectacular failure, and hoped to come in and pick up the club from the Administrators. Only now that the pledge looks like it will get somewhere close to the target, or even possibly exceed it, then the Caisley 'group' have been forced into showing their hand early?
Hmmm
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| Oh what a tangled web we weave, eh?
Looks like Mr Caisley has won over enough of the former directors/managers. Reference my earlier comments, that if the shareholders thought someone else could do a better job they would convene an EGM and replace the board? Looks like that is now the case.
Assuming what we read is factual, then people will get what they wanted - Hood and Bennett will be history. Looks like that is a 100% certainty now. Certainly the PR of recent days has done little to help their cause - My missus heard Mr Hood on The Pulse yesterday morning and said he sounded very down and negative. Guess it becomes a bit clearer now?
Must admit, Mr Caisley has timed his strike to perfection. Mr Hood looks to have the following options at close tomorrow:
1 - Announce the pledge has hit the target - fans have saved the club, for Mr Caisley's consortium to step in having £1/2m less to find.
2 - Announce pledge has not hit target, and that therefore will not be called in. Resign ahead of EGM or try to hold off administration till EGM so new directors have to make decision on putting interim funding in or appointing administrators. Administration will happen if Mr Caisley's consortium choose it to be so, by not putting any funds in now. They can then seek to buy the assets off the administrator, saving a massive amount by screwing HMRC, as well as ditching various other creditors and liabilities.
3 - Announce pledge has hit target, but will not be called in due to materially changed circumstances. As 2, except higher risk for directors because they could be seen to have precipitated the administration by turning down funding that would have avoided it.
There may be others, but those jump out to me.
In all cases, Messrs Hood and Bennett go, and Mr Caisley and his consortium have the OPTION to step in. Should they subsequently announce "the situation is much worse than we feared, and we have to withdraw our interest", then presumably its oblivion? In any case, I would be very surprised indeed if they do not seek to ensure the currrent board have no choice but to appoint administrators, since that way their investment could be far less and they would start with a clean sheet, with everything blamed on the previous board.
Where does that leave us as fans? Between a rock and a hard place. Carry on pledging, knowing the current board will not be in charge but having nothing concrete yet from Mr Caisley? Stop pledging and probably bring about administration anyway? But knowing for certain now that Mr Caisley is there to pitch for the assets if he chooses?
Like I said, move timed to perfection. Mr Caisley's revenge on Mr Hood will be complete indeed. That is between them. I guess what we supporters now have to try and judge is whether what we have read today seems likely to ensure the club's survival? Words are easy, but any realistic proposal that looks to ensure the survival of the club - and, just maybe, provides an opportunity for it to compete with the monied clubs again, can only be welcome if the alternative is oblivion? Provided the motives behind this action are genuinely in what they see as the club's interests.
I doubt any board led by Mr Caisley would seek to engage with the fans any more than the current board or his and other previous boards have. If that board was delivering longed-for success, though, I guess most fans would be happy to let them get on with it and get back to enjoying the game not worrying about the club and its future?
There is so much more I COULD add, much of it scenarios and conjecture, but unfortunately I cannot because of pressing work commitments. The one day I could have done with more time.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Very interesting report
It's obvious from the piece that there's no prospect of Caisley and Hood sitting down around the table and smoking the pipes of peace - we are looking at one or t' other
To be honest, I find myself feeling a bit sorry for Peter Hood this morning. He picked up the mantle when nobody else wanted to, and has had to steer the club through the problems that - to a large extent - were caused by Caisley the last time around. Now we see the 'old guard' circling around looking to take control again. Peter Hood could very well find himself shunted to one side and remembered - unfairly - as the guy who led the club through its darkest days.
Also I can't help wondering whether Caisley and his cronies were rather hoping that the pledge would be a spectacular failure, and hoped to come in and pick up the club from the Administrators. Only now that the pledge looks like it will get somewhere close to the target, or even possibly exceed it, then the Caisley 'group' have been forced into showing their hand early?
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I think in your final paragraph you've hit the nail on the head.
Caisley has almost certainly had to change tactic IMO.
From the texts and phone calls this morning it would seem that the majority of supporters are against the idea of a Chris Caisley backed consortium.
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