Like I said, last sunday Bulls were the better side but the scoreboard didn't say that, also admittedly the Tansey try was a disgrace AND so was playimg Moz in 2005 GF. Say you were the Bulls player who played most of the season only to lose your GF place to Moz, you,d be happy about that would you? That Bull who lost his shirt to Moz was cheated as was the game in general, Moz didn't get paid then? yeah right!!

If a team beat the Bulls in a major final and 'loaned' Billy Slater or Greg Inglis or Benji Marshall then that would be fine would it? I think not.

Like I said blaming refs is pointless and futile, it evens itself up in the end. Bradford were not cheated, they just didn't get the rub this time.

pop quiz time, who was the bull who missed out when Morley was signed?

andy lynch. experience doesnt seem to have affected him too badly since

...bet he was well happy for Moz???

Lynch played 28 games that season, Rob Parker 23 times and Matt Cook & Brett Ferres both 7 times. One of these would have had a winners ring BUT for Noble 'loaning' Moz.

The salary cap was broken in 2005. It's still CHEATING!

aye, he missed out on making the team. didn't rob parker get de registered to make way for the signing too?

The best thing is he probably genuinely believes this!!


Dude, you're giving Bulls fans a seriously bad name. You played really well, had a lot of good points, looked clinical at times, and a decent defence. You only lost by 2 points to a team that were huge favourites and have won the league 4 times in the past 7 years, given that you finished 10th last year I'd suggest perhaps that might be a result that you'd have taken given the opportunity going into the match?! Your new coaching setup and players will take time to gel, but for your first proper match together you had the signs of a real force of the competition and only narrowly lost to, like I said, pretty much exactly the same team that's won the competition 4 times in the last 7 years (without breaking the cap!!).

And what do you do.... "Booo hoooo, all the refs have got it in for us.... booo hoooo". Seriously fella... grow up.

If you actually read my previous comments I clearly state that the lads played really well and we dominated the game. If the roles were reversed you would feel the way I did. However this week we are playing against a more superior team than you so I'm looking forward to seeing how we play and see if we can perform for the 80mins. Also even as a Rhino fan even you have to admit that Royston should have been awarded a penalty try and Raynor should have been given the try when BJB stripped it.

Just like Tansey doing 50m in a second then. CHEATS

Well said Mick Gledhill!

If you READ my post at the top of this page you will see I said giving the Tansey 'try' was a disgrace!!

In that game Leeds didn't cheat you, the video ref did.

In the case of 'loaning' Moz for the 2005 GF the Bradford club cheated, if you believe Moz played for nothing thats your choice, in that year Bradford broke the cap, FACT and therefore CHEATED.
There is a big difference.

Probably did get paid, did we get points deducted in 2005?

Still niggles does it Michael?

Whereas the one talking about something 2 years even further away from that is obviously over it.

So your saying to me that Tansey didn't know what he was doing when by the time Sinfield put boot to ball, he was already over the Bradford 20m line.

Probably not. He was still pi ssed from the night before.

the live cap wasn't in place by then. 2006 was the year we copped the 2 points deduction.

Peter Hood maintained that it wasn't the signing of Morley that took us over the cap.

I suspect he was responding to Gledhill's latest attack of the vapours,

and in any case, didn't Redhall take a dim view of your Bradford Ways and deduct you a couple of points?

Whereas Tansey's cheating actually got you two bonus points, rather than having them deducted. Quite the contrast isn't it?

We have a winner

Being in fornt of the kicker at a penalty is usually a penalty to the opposition. Having 2 points deducted seems rather harsh.

Klein should have had 2 plums deducted

It is. But being rewarded with 2 of your opposition's competition points is also harsh on them.

yes he probably did but, you play to the whistle, if you use your brains!

How many times is a try scored from a illegal ball steel but if you get away with it the try scorer doesn't say 'hey I nicked that ball 2 on 1' does he? Not even a Bulls player??

You can talk about any aspect of cheating (or getting away with it) but ALL teams play to the whistle. FACT is you lot CHEATED in 2005 GF by playing Moz and breaking the cap AND sh*t on Rob Parker in doing this. End Of.

we "cheated" in 2005 by breaching the salary cap, not by playing Morley. If you can prove that signing Morley put us over the salary cap then you're a better accountant that the one the bulls used in 2005.

As mentioned previously, he also took Lynch's place in the squad that played in the final. Where is Rob Parker compared to Lynch nowadays? I know which player I would rather have too. Are you really trying to tell us that if Leeds were to sign a better player than someone currently in the squad and it meant the Leeds player had to lose his playing registration to complete the new signing you wouldn't condone it?

He can't prove it, because it's impossible. I know exactly what put us over the cap that year and it wasn't the loan signing of Morley. But then, that doesn't suit his argument. Much like how all other cheating is ignored because it doesn't suit the argument.