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| Not easy to see how they will avoid relegation with no team in place so close to the start of the season. Maybe this could prompt more changes to the proposals for reorganisation as it never seemed likely you could square London's relegation with the aspiration to expand?
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"Not easy to see how they will avoid relegation with no team in place so close to the start of the season. Maybe this could prompt more changes to the proposals for reorganisation as it never seemed likely you could square London's relegation with the aspiration to expand?'"
That's very true and worse for London is that it's more difficult to give any leeway on relegation as an 'expansion area' club when they've been going for around 30 years or so if you include the complete history from their formation as Fulham back in the neolithic period.....
To be honest, despite the odd one coming on here to make trouble, I feel a lot of sympathy for our friends in the capital and it can't have been easy running a rugby league team down there and I hope things turn round for them.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"That's very true and worse for London is that it's more difficult to give any leeway on relegation as an 'expansion area' club when they've been going for around 30 years or so if you include the complete history from their formation as Fulham back in the neolithic period.....
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That would be almost like folding Gateshead and giving their money to Hull as a development area. Oh wait a minute............
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"That would be almost like folding Gateshead and giving their money to Hull as a development area. Oh wait a minute............
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Ha ha, yeah, must admit I've totally disregarded the precedent
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| That would almost be like sheffield folding and giving there money to huddersfield as a delelopment area ... Oh hang on a minute ....
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| That would almost be like sheffield folding and giving there money to huddersfield as a development area ... Oh hang on a minute ....
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| Great news.
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| Quote ="vbfg"Great news.'"
I am pleased at the news of survival, and it will be interesting to see the RFLs response.
Will there be penalties? Because if there is, how can they expect a new venture to have any chance to survive in this increasingly hostile austerity and cutback's situation we find ourselves faced with?
PS: If London went into a CVA like Salford, it appears that this doesn't count as administration, so therefore no problem with points deduction, or withholding of SKY compensation, or the Super League License?
Personally I do feel that we should give them as much help as possible, for the sake of the game.
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| Fingers crossed it works out. No true RL fan would want them penalised further, it's hard enough down there as it is. More good work by the RFL by the sounds of it.
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"...
PS: If London went into a CVA like Salford, it appears that this doesn't count as administration, so therefore no problem with points deduction, or withholding of SKY compensation, or the Super League License?
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Don't know about that, but if a major creditor is HMRC, I can guarantee they would vote against, and then it would be academic.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Don't know about that, but if a major creditor is HMRC, I can guarantee they would vote against, and then it would be academic.'"
Their own accounts to 30/11/2012 shows them owing "Taxation & Social Security" of £367k so it could be larger now
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| Quote ="Bulliac"That's very true and worse for London is that it's more difficult to give any leeway on relegation as an 'expansion area' club when they've been going for around 30 years or so if you include the complete history from their formation as Fulham back in the neolithic period.....
To be honest, despite the odd one coming on here to make trouble, I feel a lot of sympathy for our friends in the capital and it can't have been easy running a rugby league team down there and I hope things turn round for them.'"
agreed. No mention of oseas quota being lifted in the press release (which is similar on both RFL and SL websites), so likely a few Bulls will be going. But who?
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| London never went into Administration and as far as I am aware the same guy is still bank rolling them for 2014.
So the only change is the change of venue.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"London never went into Administration and as far as I am aware the same guy is still bank rolling them for 2014.
So the only change is the change of venue.'"
This is what puzzles me. Hughes was obviously bankrolling the club, so where did the threat of administration come from? Was it simply the threat of Hughes walking away?
The announcement of them avoiding admin recently never actually mentioned any investment in the club, only the ground share at Barnet.
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| Makes you wonder. If no investment or overseas quota lifted have the rfl said they wont be relegated next year which has persuaded hughes to keep going.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Their own accounts to 30/11/2012 shows them owing "Taxation & Social Security" of £367k so it could be larger now'"
Nope...we used the Bulls 2014 SKY money to settle that bill
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope...we used the Bulls 2014 SKY money to settle that bill
'" Congratulations GF, a different joke.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"Congratulations GF, a different joke.'"
You're welcome!
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"Congratulations GF, a different joke.'"
I thought it was a statement of fact
Would think clubs will rack up sums due to HMRC of between £100k and £200k a month based on size of payroll and VAT on gates. Or at £20 a ticket 7500 paying supporters a month.
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| Quote ="Nothus"This is what puzzles me. Hughes was obviously bankrolling the club, so where did the threat of administration come from? Was it simply the threat of Hughes walking away?
The announcement of them avoiding admin recently never actually mentioned any investment in the club, only the ground share at Barnet.'"
That's the nub Nothus. It can't just be passed off as "business as usual", when admin was being mentioned as a serious consideration. It's clearly far more than just a new ground.
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| The RFL should have bought a ground in London & let them play there for a peppercorn rent.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"It's clearly far more than just a new ground.'"
Correct. The managed to shed the academy as well as getting rid of every staff member under the guise of "administration" neglecting to pay them all they were owed and making the club staff 11 players and Gus MacKay.
Other than that, it is exactly that...a new landlord for 2014 with no financial investment from anyone new......we have a new landlord who might invest in 2015.
Expect more of the same in 2014/2015
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| Now now TT, you'll get a reputation....
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| If you look at what happened the club shed nearly all the staff and most of the players at the end of the season. The announcement that the club may go into "administration" was made sometime after that. In fact the club never actually went in to the hands of the solicitors.
We survived by the skin of our teeth.
I hope you lot can find a decent solution to the problems you have.
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| What I wouldn't give to be a London supporter right now
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