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| In general, ignoring the deficiencies in the refereeing, was very pleased with our performance. We are actually starting to look like a team rather than a set of of individuals. To say we never got rub of the green our heads never went down and we kept trying. Only minor niggle for me is Langley needs telling he's allowed to pass. Tends to run it in every time he gets the ball.
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| Quote ="mat"In general, ignoring the deficiencies in the refereeing, was very pleased with our performance. We are actually starting to look like a team rather than a set of of individuals. To say we never got rub of the green our heads never went down and we kept trying. Only minor niggle for me is Langley needs telling he's allowed to pass. Tends to run it in every time he gets the ball.'"
Yeah its about time he started offloading it a bit or move him into the backrow so he can crash onto the ball outwide and break a few tackles from the smaller guys or even upto prop. None the less he's good at what he is 'presumably' being asked to do, and thats take it up and make some yards.
Really impressed with the aggression Maneses showed, he really got the team going when he came on. I likedhow he was coming in to hurt the man instead of just comleting the tackle.
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| A very improved work effort and confidence all round, better tackling than of late but for me it was parity in the collisions that led to our speed around the rucks, and defence against their rucks that was the most improved factor.
As said already our good ratio of possession and field positions was let down by poor creativity in the red zone, albeit against a well structured Warrington defence.
Overall a performance which the players and supporters can take lots of pride from.
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| very happy to come away with a win..nearly always tough at Odsal...especially without Monas, Westwood and Briers (for a half.)
Keep that intensity in your defence and get a better kicking game will see you win more than you loose.
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| FWIW ~ I think tonight was brilliant for our squad, they matched the Wires for long periods of the game and but for some contentious refereeing decisions would have run the opposition a lot closer.
Whilst the Wire probably deserved to win, just! ~ we showed that this squad does have the potential to become a competitive force in SL.
The major gain tonight was the pride & self belief that the team must feel after that game and the knowledge that the players did their fans proud tonight.
Does anyone know if we came out of tonight's game injury free?
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| Was impressed with so many aspects tonight.
I thought Wire tried to play around the ruck all night, obviously they have been taking notes of our previous games, but i actually thought we defended much better than previous games.
In my opinion, i thought our pack were the stronger of the 2 teams tonight, the meters made, and the defensive effort was great but we need to remember we have backs that need to be brought into play.
At times, we had the ball in their 20, we had no idea what to do. I actually thought that the time we spent there, we could have actually posted a large score against Wire. It was then so disappointing for Wire to then get into our 20 and walk straight through.
If we get some clinical plays put together that we can execute on a match day, we will be a match for any team. Until then, we only look like scoring from kicks.
Manu....... (New forward) looked really impressive tonight, ran hard, looked to offload, looked to get on his feet fast to play the ball. He looks the real deal.
For me, we need to show we can take our opportunities when we have field position. If we get that sorted, this team can make a real push up the table, hopefully making the play-offs
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| Very good effort tonight if we can finish a set with a try when we are so close to the try line & play like this for the rest of the season we are going to kill off a lot of sides.
Some poor decisions from the ref and linesmen not saying we would have won if they went the other way just a lot closer
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| Good display from the pack and the backs. What we need is some way of maybe linking the two. The backrow in particular is looking pretty good at the moment.
Much improved though. Really pleased with that result. After the Wigan game I asked for more mongrel and less lap dog and that's exactly what we got.
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| thats the sort of game that makes you optimistic for the second half of season, build on that and you have a real chance of playoffs. lets go to kr and kick on! Again Bateman getting stuck in a fellow player in trouble, he impresses me more and more. just cannot see how 3 officials did not see the elbow, wherever it hit is irrelevant, its the intent that needs to be punished. Before the game would have settled for less than 30 points difference, well pleased with 7 after discounting the forward pass try. and Oxford Exile, you only have 2 and a half players missing. We have Elima, Gale, Donaldson, Purtell.
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| Add to that walker, sibbit and olbison ( plus scruton unavailable). Fair enough not all first choice players but some are first choice backup for players already injured.
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| WE might have Elima, Walker, Sibbett & Scruton in contention next week.
I expect Elima to give Bateman a rest,
Scruton to replace Josephs
But does Walker replace Platt at cente ?
And who would be dropped for Sibett ? if he was to come in
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| And Karl Pryce waiting for a game, and Ainscough..Although i think Crookes and Kear's placs in the 1st team and well deserved at the moment.
Very good performance last night, the only moan would be the lack of creativity in the final third as already stated, oh and the ref.
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| Couldnt make the game but caught it on tv, how can we be in the position we are in we pushed wolves all the way and if it wasnt for some suspect refereing and a bit of niavity on the oppos goal.
If we can keep consistant and play like this against the lesser teams not to be derogatory as ino we are a lesser team ATM we should make playoffs easy.
But as i said that watch us lose againt KR next week
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| Can't understand why we're playing Burgess & Bateman in U20's games when their in the 19 man squad. Talk abotu burn out!!
I wasn't bothered about winning tonight, just wanted a performance, and boy did we get it.
Thats why we've been frustrated all season, if we play like that most games we are easily a play off team.
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| I only saw the first half & from 68 minutes. Bulls defence & commitment outstanding, just lacking creativity to go with the possession. Wire missed the flair of Briers & Michael Monaghan. I missed the Bridge incident, hope to catch it later, but would have no problem with him being sent for for his smugness. I thought the ref was excellent, I agreed with every VR decision I saw, Hodgson's pass obviously drifted forward with momentum but IMO the original direction was level. I would let them go every time. The crime was not a missed forward pass but a winger out of position.
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| Watched the game again this morning and a massive improvement all over the park. Great effort and commitment. Just missing that bit of quality in the final third and we would've won the game.
Manase looked good minus the couple of handling errors and Heath looked great again when he came on as he has all season.
Both video ref calls were correct but the try from the forward pass was absolutely disgraceful. Must've been 2 or 3 metres forward. The touch judge was in the perfect position and didn't do anything. Very poor and very disappointing.
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| Competition for places is never a bad thing IMO. It's what we have seriously lacked for a while now.
Once we get a few more people back its going to be very interesting to see who is able to up their game and nail down the starting slots
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| Good performance last night, and thats all that was needed. Warrington are a quality side, they wont lose many this year, but we can take a lot from that game. 2 of Warrington's tries should have been chalked off and Bridge should have been red carded, nobody can defend that, but they took there chances and probably deserved the win.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I only saw the first half & from 68 minutes. Bulls defence & commitment outstanding, just lacking creativity to go with the possession. Wire missed the flair of Briers & Michael Monaghan. I missed the Bridge incident, hope to catch it later, but would have no problem with him being sent for for his smugness. I thought the ref was excellent, I agreed with every VR decision I saw, Hodgson's pass obviously drifted forward with momentum but IMO the original direction was level. I would let them go every time. The crime was not a missed forward pass but a winger out of position.'"
Imo, the passer was crabbing sideways along the line, not going forward so even though he turned his body before passing, there [iwas[/i no momentum (except towards the stand). Not only that, but the wind, which was mainly blowing across the pitch into the stand was also angling back in the direction of Rooley lane, and the scorer still caught the ball two and half yards in front of where it was passed from.
My biggest problem is that this kind of 'try' is allowed on very regular basis these days and we've had the benefit of more than one or two.....so 'twould be churlish to go an about it too much
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Good performance last night, and thats all that was needed. Warrington are a quality side, they wont lose many this year, but we can take a lot from that game. 2 of Warrington's tries should have been chalked off and Bridge should have been red carded, nobody can defend that, but they took there chances and probably deserved the win.'"
yes 1 try should and could of been chalked off for the forward but im struggling to see any foul play in the other scores , great effort from the bulls thou if you can keep them performances up you will finish in top 6 imo
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| Waterhouses try was not double movement so no probs with it..riley looked across and slowed down a bit..but you could say he knew he wasnt gonna get ball so why should he run at full speed and be tired/risk straining owt..he didnt change direction/lean in to defender so try.
Rileys was so forward it was a joke..gawd knows what stokesy was doing on touch, probably his finger nails..im sure he actually asked alibert what his flag was for and he said for the goals.
Thats the only one that should have been chalked off.
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| Superb performance all round. I predicted a Bulls win by 2 points, and with an equal rub of the green, an even share of luck (but when did we last have anything like that) and equal treatment by the officials I reckon we would have sneaked it.
If the forward pass try is seen by our refs controller; along with Halibut being unbelievably suckered by Carvell on several occasions; and then Bridge's disgraceful elbow drop; then the touchie and Halibut must surely be given a week in league 6, that was just a plain disgrace. Carvell knocked the ball out of Manu's firm grasp twice, but the maost absurd thing was when Carvell backhanded a pass after he had been tackled, with no Bulls player anywhere near him, yet Halibut gave them a pen! I'm sorry, but this loevel of myopia deserves a reffing break. And I don't generally mind Halibut as a ref but he and his touchies had a mare.
The Platt try should have been given, on the benefit of the doubt. I'd argue his foot was on the field of play, with teh curved part of the boot over the line (but thus not touching the line) at the moment the ball touched the grass. Which moment was between video frames, yet he was judged on the second of 2 frames, even though the ball was clearly well grounded by then. But as has been said there were 2 tries that would have been given in a non-TV match, yet why does Halibut pick and choose which contentious calls to go to the VR for, when he has the option? We get this a lot, refs ignoring the VR and making a decision on what must be an extremely close call, and I don't understand it. They are taking chances and taking liberties. It's a cavalier approach.
Manu had an excellent debut apart from being suckered a couple of times after the tackle, and looks a potentially huge asset in every way. All credit to Burgess for doubling up, and Jeffries (although his kicking wasn't as good as last week) again did his job very well.
All in all a fine effort from the Bulls, if only we could find a way to produce these goods consistently.
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| I thought the performance last night was a big step in the right direction. I just hope that we can put in similar amounts of effort into our performances this year. The defence was once again a lot more solid and it was a real team effort. The Riley try was clearly forward, to suggest his hands were pointing backwards is complete nonsense. It was a poor call from the officials. I think the Atkins try was a tough one, it might not break any rules but I thought it was a little bit poor form from Riley. He clearly slowed down to impede Crookes, it not the sort of RL I want to see and he a better player than that.
The scoreline probably flattered Wire a little in the end, with a bit more luck we would have had a couple more scores on the board. I do however still have some concerns about our attack, but hopefully this will improved as the season progresses.
No complaints about the loss, it was still a much better performance than we're use to at Odsal. I hope they players take the positives from this game and do the same at Hull KR next week. Consistency should be the word in training this week!
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| Agree with most posters on the VR tries being unfortunate but correct plus the Bridge red card and Riley's forward pass. I also thought Manase had the ball reefed a couple of time.
CalumLW makes the point that Jeffries chose the wrong runner on occasion and I'd agree. On 3 or 4 occasions in the second half we had play the balls on the right with Briers flat footed on his own line and the Wire defence tired and not moving up and he chose the Langley crash ball. Whilst Langley was superb last night it was crying out for two long passes to get Lulia up against Briers and Bridge. Briers was injured and Bridge was gonna hurt someone and we should have taken Langley and Bateman out of the move and gone BJ, Sammut, Kearney, Lulia, Crookes.
Of course it's dead easy from the stand but if we're gonna improve we must move the ball faster to Lulia's wing. I also didn't understand the logic of our 5th tackle kicks. Whitehead, Lulia and BK take 3 out of the air last week this week we didn't really try it.
I've slated Hargreaves on here but have to take it back. Against Wakey and Wire he's been very good. Carvell apart our pack held it's own. Overall though a really good game and a marked step forward.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Superb performance all round. I predicted a Bulls win by 2 points, and with an equal rub of the green, an even share of luck (but when did we last have anything like that) and equal treatment by the officials I reckon we would have sneaked it.
If the forward pass try is seen by our refs controller; along with Halibut being unbelievably suckered by Carvell on several occasions; and then Bridge's disgraceful elbow drop; then the touchie and Halibut must surely be given a week in league 6, that was just a plain disgrace. Carvell knocked the ball out of Manu's firm grasp twice, but the maost absurd thing was when Carvell backhanded a pass after he had been tackled, with no Bulls player anywhere near him, yet Halibut gave them a pen! I'm sorry, but this loevel of myopia deserves a reffing break. And I don't generally mind Halibut as a ref but he and his touchies had a mare.
The Platt try should have been given, on the benefit of the doubt. I'd argue his foot was on the field of play, with teh curved part of the boot over the line (but thus not touching the line) at the moment the ball touched the grass. Which moment was between video frames, yet he was judged on the second of 2 frames, even though the ball was clearly well grounded by then. '"
Next week Alchemy Aardvark will explain how to turn water into wine.
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