Well you live and learn. Everywhere I have looked says Sydney NSW.

The Ah-van theme song (to the obvious tune)



Ah-van in the middle of our team
Ah-van he runs like a dream
Ah-van we like to see him fly
Ah-van scores another great try!

This is great. Things started looking up when we got rid of a coach, now we can celebrate with the signing of a van.

Well Wiki says NZ and that's never ever wrong...

It's true, youtube his name and first video is an interview with him

Glady.

Adrian Morley
Jamie Peacock
James Grahaham
Sam Burgess
Nick Scruton
Andy Lynch
Craig Kopczak
Eorl Crabtree
Darrel Griffin
Keith Mason
Stuart Fielden
Andy Coley
Gareth Carvell
Ben Harrison

The fact that all these props have more of an impact of games show than your man show just help to illustrate the fact that youre talking absolute twaddle.

It's disgusting that NRL teams are signing British Props like Burgess and letting them hold back decent Aussie and NZ players...

Well I doubt that matters seen as Burgess is playing back row.

Just on the Sam Moa comparason, he now has impact, not the best in the league as b4c2010 points out - but impact nonetheless. If I'm reading your argument correctly this explains why its ok for Hull to sign sam moa because he offers something, whereas ah van is untried in the nrl therefore we might as well try an untried british player who could give us the same. Am I right?

My question would be how many NRL games had Sam Moa played before being signed by Hull? I know how many, its 53 less than AH Vans 54 apperances. So he was untried and could easily be argued at that time that some british prospects of the time [imight [/ihave given you the same impact. Or that your signing of Moa is exactly the same if not slightly worse than the signing of Ah Van by the logic of measuring against un-named potential.


...just to point out, I have no problem with us signing Ah Van or you signing Moa.

Well if anyone would know it would be Wiki - he's definitely from NZ

Surely Withers is from Ireland?

Beghorrah, I didnt know that.
Is your new lad Patrick one of us also ?

Don't be silly.

He's dutch. What did you expect with a name like that?

Only because one of the people posting about it probably edited it just before the question

Wiki certainly was one that said Sydney when I looked. Most odd.

in fact

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I think you were talking about diff people, some Withers, some PAV.

I hope it's just a spooky co-incidence that "PAV" is traditional trade shorthand for "Pre-Accident Value"

Ah Van has some goalkicking on his stats pages, not many, but I wonder if he sees himself as a potential goalkicker? Its certainly a department we have been lacking in since Deacs left and I've been hoping one of our signings is a decent goalkicker, and if Ah Van fancies a go the competition for kicking duties can only be useful IMO.

I was referring to PAV! (well done BullsChamps, I like this new nickname much better).

So I assume the original post you were quoting was referring to the fact both Hape and Withers were virtual unknowns but turned out to be good uns rather than Withers being a Kiwi (which he certainly isn't).

Pat the Van was mentioned in the T&A

I was referring to Withers and I must have misconstrued the post that was made. Just him going on about Kiwis was a tad confusing I guess.

Glad we sorted that one out cos I thought I was going mad!

Wasn't Withers a Dally M Junior player of the year? not bad for an unknown

Shirley Withers.
Mick's missus?