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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Dont move then, that's fine by me. Just dont go crying when I light up. Youve got the opportunity to move away from it yet choose not to.'"
I'll just throw a pint in your face... then we'll be evens!!!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"I'll just throw a pint in your face... then we'll be evens!!!
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LooL, touche. Mr Pint.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"
I put it to you that what you are doing is equally as offensive yet you only disagree because you are a smoker.
The point is if you want to do something that effects you, then go ahead. However, if what you are doing effects others then that is out of order. It should be you that is the one that moves, why should anyone have to comprimise their place on the terrace just to suit your selfish habbit???
So, no thank you... I won't move to the stand!!!'"
I disagree yet i'm not a smoker, i'm not a drama queen either though.
Why should smokers have to compromise their place on the terrace just to suit non smokers preferences?
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"What would you do if i suddenly turned round and threw a pint in your face??? I think you'd be pretty p*ssed off... right??? What if i then said if you don't like it go stand somewhere else??? Are you getting the point yet???
I just guess that your so selfish you can't see through the nasty un-pleasant smog you generate!!!'"
Yeah, because thats the same thing.
Throwing a pint in someones face can be considered a criminal offence, smoking on the Odsal terraces (atm) cannot.
What would be your reason for throwing a pint aswell? A smoker smokes because they enjoy the cigarrette, you drink because you enjoy the pint, why would you waste it by chucking it at him!? I realise this isn't a realistic scenario, but when you look at them both, they are very different.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"You're really not getting it are you???
Yes, you have a right to smoke and so you should. However, I also have a right not to have someone blowing smoke into my personal space which is f*cking horrible!!!
What would you do if i suddenly turned round and threw a pint in your face??? I think you'd be pretty p*ssed off... right??? What if i then said if you don't like it go stand somewhere else??? Are you getting the point yet???
I just guess that your so selfish you can't see through the nasty un-pleasant smog you generate!!!'"
That's how I find the anti smoking brigade TBH. You've got pubs, restaurants, planes, train stations, taxis, cinemas and offices now you're whinging about people smoking outside.
I feel like starting up again as a matter of principle.
The best anti smoking fascists are the ones that complain about smokers standing outside train stations or in beer gardens. "I have to walk through their smoke boo hoo hoo". Well you put them there so it's hard lines Adolf.
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| I actually cannot believe people are having ago at anti smoking....are you people that narrow minded!! Its not about ing you smokers off! For one smoking is possibly (i use possibly) the strangest and most stupid activity i know (please keep the return activities you will spout reasonable please). The ban was enforced to try and reduce passive smoking reduce smokers cost to NHS and not mickey off the majority of people who dont smoke in public places! The terraces should be a smoke free zone....and if people cant with hold the earge to smoke for 40 minutes you should be embarrased with yourselves
I await the replies most eagerly and please dont talk about my low post count please as many of u often do
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| Quote ="jaj1066"I actually cannot believe people are having ago at anti smoking....are you people that narrow minded!! Its not about ing you smokers off! For one smoking is possibly (i use possibly) the strangest and most stupid activity i know
(please keep the return activities you will spout reasonable please). The ban was enforced to try and reduce passive smoking reduce smokers cost to NHS and not mickey off the majority of people who dont smoke in public places! The terraces should be a smoke free zone....and if people cant with hold the earge to smoke for 40 minutes you should be embarrased with yourselves
I await the replies most eagerly and please dont talk about my low post count please as many of u often do
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You're the narrow minded one. The ban was brought in as a vote winner because of small minded people like you that feel you have the right to enforce your health fascism on everyone else. What's the Mail on Sunday like today?
If you think that smoking harms the NHS then you really don't know what you're on about. The treasury love smokers and drinkers and drivers because of the revenue. Why haven't they banned it completely if it's so bad? One of the main reasons I gave it up was the cost and 150% of the cost of a pack goes to the treasury.
Stop whinging and trying to impose yourself on other people. You've got smoke free pubs (the ones that are left because you've helped to virutally kill that trade off with this ban) and juice bars. Go and have a wheat grass and quinoa smoothie and cheer yourself up.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Yeah, because thats the same thing.
Throwing a pint in someones face can be considered a criminal offence, smoking on the Odsal terraces (atm) cannot.
What would be your reason for throwing a pint aswell? A smoker smokes because they enjoy the cigarrette, you drink because you enjoy the pint, why would you waste it by chucking it at him!? I realise this isn't a realistic scenario, but when you look at them both, they are very different.'"
I'm not saying i would throw a pint... I was trying to make a point that it's not acceptable
I'm not a drama queen either... both parents smoke, brother smokes and think the passive smoking argument has been made enough times to argue about it on a RL forum. I'm just trying to stick up for those (including myself) who would like to watch the game we love without having to breathe in something I don't particularly find pleasant.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"That's how I find the anti smoking brigade TBH. You've got pubs, restaurants, planes, train stations, taxis, cinemas and offices now you're whinging about people smoking outside.
I feel like starting up again as a matter of principle.
The best anti smoking fascists are the ones that complain about smokers standing outside train stations or in beer gardens. "I have to walk through their smoke boo hoo hoo". Well you put them there so it's hard lines Adolf.'"
I think its been said before on this thread but you seriously need to start thinking about what or who you compare me to.
Yes, i don't like smoking and i feel i have a right to say i'm not keen on smokers smoking on the terrace, likewise you are free to have your opinion.
However... DO NOT EVER... compare me or anyone else to Nazi's, Fascists or Adolf Hitler!!! Just because i have an opinion what gives you the right to compare me to someone who was responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people???
If there is any mod who is in there right mind they will follow this up as you are bang out of order!!!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"I think its been said before on this thread but you seriously need to start thinking about what or who you compare me to.
Yes, i don't like smoking and i feel i have a right to say i'm not keen on smokers smoking on the terrace, likewise you are free to have your opinion.
However... DO NOT EVER... compare me or anyone else to Nazi's, Fascists or Adolf Hitler!!! Just because i have an opinion what gives you the right to compare me to someone who was responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people???
If there is any mod who is in there right mind they will follow this up as you are bang out of order!!!'"
Bit melodramatic. If you smoked you wouldn't be this uptight. Where in that post have I compared you to fascists or Adolf Hitler? Try reading it again unless you have posted this by way of an admission of being a health fascist? If you aren't admitting to that then I haven't have I? I haven't even used the word Nazi.
In fact you are bang out of order for handing out false accusations!!! You either can't read or are doing this for attention.
You're the one handing out the personal insults in the first place then you throw a wobbler when someone mentions health fascism.
It's funny because it's such an emotive
I couldn't give a toss if smoking is allowed or not on the terraces at Odsal as I don't smoke in fact I'm surprised it hasn't been banned yet on the terraces it pretty much has been everywhere else.
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| Sort of sums our season this topic. 7 pages about smoking!
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Bit melodramatic. If you smoked you wouldn't be this uptight. Where in that post have I compared you to fascists or Adolf Hitler? Try reading it again unless you have posted this by way of an admission of being a health fascist? If you aren't admitting to that then I haven't have I? I haven't even used the word Nazi.
In fact you are bang out of order for handing out false accusations!!! You either can't read or are doing this for attention.
You're the one handing out the personal insults in the first place then you throw a wobbler when someone mentions health fascism.
It's funny because it's such an emotive
I couldn't give a toss if smoking is allowed or not on the terraces at Odsal as I don't smoke in fact I'm surprised it hasn't been banned yet on the terraces it pretty much has been everywhere else.'"
Think you should take a leaf out of your own book and read your own posts back.
When you use the terms Fascist and Adolf you are implying certain things. When you realise how offensive you are being by these terms in such a casual way I might not get so "melodramatic".
I'm more than happy to engage in discussion about the pros/cons about banning smoking on the terraces but when you use the comparisons you have I do get wound up... perhaps that's you aim. If not lets get back onto the topic of whether smoking on the terraces should be allowed or not.
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| I thought he was referring to the German chessmaster Adolf Anderssen.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I thought he was referring to the German chessmaster Adolf Anderssen.'"
Have you just wikipedia'd famous Adolf's???
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Have you just wikipedia'd famous Adolf's???'"
No. [size=10Google is better[/size
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| Quote ="JBT1991"Headingley and Cas are both non-smoking. You can smoke at Wakey i believe. Headingley has been no smoking for a while now.'"
Cas isn't . Only non smoking under covered area . Smoking allowed at railway end and either side of seating stand . Doesn't stop some of the ignorants smoking under cover as well though
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Those smokers are doing their bit for the UK economy during hard times.
What are you contributing? You'll still want NHS treatment if you need it but you want to dictate where the smokers who are paying for it stand for a cig. Typical sponging Non-smokers and T-totallers
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Sorry , but this in nonsense . Smokers cost NHS much more than they contribute through cig taxes
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| I'd love a shisha section at Odsal
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| Quote ="taffy tiger"Sorry , but this in nonsense . Smokers cost NHS much more than they contribute through cig taxes'"
Your post is the one that is complete nonsense. Smokers pay far more than they take from the NHS.
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Quote ="bullinenemyland"I think its been said before on this thread but you seriously need to start thinking about what or who you compare me to.
Yes, i don't like smoking and i feel i have a right to say i'm not keen on smokers smoking on the terrace, likewise you are free to have your opinion.
However... DO NOT EVER... compare me or anyone else to Nazi's, Fascists or Adolf Hitler!!! Just because i have an opinion what gives you the right to compare me to someone who was responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people???
If there is any mod who is in there right mind they will follow this up as you are bang out of order!!!'"
you need to invoke godwin's law.... any one who uses nazi's or compares a persons behaviour to a nazi automatically loses the arguement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
oh by the way i smoke you facist
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Quote ="bullinenemyland"I think its been said before on this thread but you seriously need to start thinking about what or who you compare me to.
Yes, i don't like smoking and i feel i have a right to say i'm not keen on smokers smoking on the terrace, likewise you are free to have your opinion.
However... DO NOT EVER... compare me or anyone else to Nazi's, Fascists or Adolf Hitler!!! Just because i have an opinion what gives you the right to compare me to someone who was responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people???
If there is any mod who is in there right mind they will follow this up as you are bang out of order!!!'"
you need to invoke godwin's law.... any one who uses nazi's or compares a persons behaviour to a nazi automatically loses the arguement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
oh by the way i smoke you facist
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| I'm all for live and let live, but some of the comments on here have gone beyond idiotic. Are the smokers on here really so selfish? I have no issue with smoking, and smoked for a long time, but no longer do, but I would hope I was never as rude or ignorant about where I chose to smoke as some on here appear to be. What about a bit of consideration for others?
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| Quote ="tigerbond"Your post is the one that is complete nonsense. Smokers pay far more than they take from the NHS.'"
I stand corrected and well and truly admonished . My apologies . It shows the need for checking out research properly , I guess . I asked the question on internet in a biased way tbh and had plenty of figures saying what I wanted to hear . However , after your reply I checked from a more neutral basis and the facts do speak for themselves . Approx cost to NHS £ 2bn versus approx tax generated from cig taxes £ 10 bn . Not even close . Sorry . At least it was a fellow Cas fan that corrected me i suppose that's some consolation
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| i personally think this was a waste of a post .... ive just bored myself to death after reading 8 pages of it ..
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| Is it just smoking cigs on the terraces that people have an issue with? It's just this season I can't get through one half without a blast of crystal meth!
I had dog the bounty hunter and his gobby wife outside my house this morning.
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| I have no problem with people smoking. If they want to wreck their lungs and stink like seven shades of Hades then so be it.
What I do have a problem with is anti-social smokers and unfortunately since the hefty in-roads into making it more difficult to smoke in public places there seems to be a direct correlation in the rise of anti-social smokers.
I don't think it takes too much intelligence or basic human manners to accept that if you're doing something that affects people around you in a negative way then you take care about how you're doing it.
I for one would support a total ban in all sporting arenas. I would hazard a guess that the majority of smokers would suddenly find they could suddenly last 95 minutes of a rugby match without a fag
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