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| Quote ="debaser"To be fair, if the Bulls don't survive, some of the blame would have to lie with the fans who don't pledge. They have happily accepted £75 season tickets, yet don't feel the club is worth anymore than that. If the club goes, there will be plenty of time to sit around blaming each other. They could spend every Sunday between 3 and 5 repeating "it's not my fault" over and over.'"
Ah thats right, those fans who normally couldn't afford a season ticket who could due to the price reduction are to blame. Maybe they can't afford to pledge? Theres a pretty good chance they wouldn't have been season ticket holders if they had been full price. Its the management that decided on that strategy, maybe they should have done their sums correctly. If the Bulls go belly up the only people to blame are the incompetant people at the top.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"Regardless of who was right and who was wrong it is in the hands of the fans to support the pledge.
If they do not then the club will probably cease to exist in its current form.
By doing nothing they are killing the club. As far as i can see it's that simple.'"
What irks me is some people say that ceasing to exist in its current form would be a good thing.
If you want to risk the club folding, or at best losing Bateman, Whitehead, Addy, Kopzchak etc then don't pledge. If you want to avoid those then you have to pledge and encourage your friends who haven't pledged yet to do the same.
Broken record i know but this is about supporting the club, nothing else matters until we clear this issue.
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| Quote ="Theboyem" If the Bulls go belly up the only people to blame are the incompetant people at the top.'"
Maybe this is true, & in a normal private business they take the risk of it going belly up against the potential for huge cash rewards. But this is a big business run on a shoestring by people who largely don't get paid. And I'm not one to let big business off the hook normally. If it was such an attractive proposition there would have been a queue of investors at the door before it went belly up.
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| Well said Northern Lad. I think lots of people just don't seem to grasp that by going into Admin we would in all likelihood lose our best prospects, so if you haven't pledged yet because:
a. You think we will be better off in Admin
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Then think again, this really is the last chance saloon to keep our club and keep it competitive in Super League, the consequences just aren't worth thinking about so think about the money you have saved in cheap season ticket costs over the past couple of years and pledge.......PLEASE!!
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Ah thats right, those fans who normally couldn't afford a season ticket who could due to the price reduction are to blame. Maybe they can't afford to pledge? Theres a pretty good chance they wouldn't have been season ticket holders if they had been full price. Its the management that decided on that strategy, maybe they should have done their sums correctly. If the Bulls go belly up the only people to blame are the incompetant people at the top.'"
Have you ever taken the trouble to go talk to the "incompetant (sic) people at the top"? If you did, you might be surprised.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Ah thats right, those fans who normally couldn't afford a season ticket who could due to the price reduction are to blame. Maybe they can't afford to pledge?'"
Yes maybe they can't. Maybe they can't afford £100, but they might be able to afford £50, £20 even. If they liked the club enough to buy a ticket in the first place, then I can't understand how they can want it to go under. It doesn't make sense.
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| Quote ="debaser"Yes maybe they can't. Maybe they can't afford £100, but they might be able to afford £50, £20 even. If they liked the club enough to buy a ticket in the first place, then I can't understand how they can want it to go under. It doesn't make sense.'"
The cheapest season tickets were £75. I can not believe that anyone who purchased even the cheapest ticket would not be willing to pledge at least £20 to save the club.
Much as it pains me to say it, if this was Leeds the entire city would be behind them (including the football club).
FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU HAVE NOT PLEDGED, DO IT NOW!!!!
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| Quote ="Duckman"Is there any milage in giving away stadium/stand naming rights for a suitable donation? The last time the naming rights were sold we got 500k for 4 years. I know its different economic times, but would a company take say 10 years of advertising for just 100-200k? (it doesnt matter how long we give it away for if we're not going to be here in a month!) The Red Bull stadium? The Morrisons arena? Have we been cold calling these companies with these type of offers?
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not sure if this option is open to us anymore. Would depend on terms of lease with RFL I suppose, but wouldnt be surprised if revenue from any naming rights went straight to RFL rather than Bulls.
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| The important thing for all Bulls to realise is that the priority is to save the club from administration. Wakefield fans may tell you that it worked out for them but they forget that they lost Sam Obst and others as the vultures circled around the carcass. They were also an ace away from losing their SL licence. If Crusaders had not pulled out when they did then the Wakefield fans would be watching Championship Rugby. Would they be advocating administration if that had happened?
The RFL have also stated that they will take severe action with any further clubs going into administration. Does this mean revoking the SL licence?, who knows. It is not a risk that I would want my club to take. Think of the enjoyment that the Bulls have given you and what you would miss if the worst happened.
To all Bull fans; Pledge now! raise the £500k to save the club first and then ask the questions of the board which you are well within your rights to have answered.
Best of Luck
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"The important thing for all Bulls to realise is that the priority is to save the club from administration. Wakefield fans may tell you that it worked out for them but they forget that they lost Sam Obst and others as the vultures circled around the carcass. They were also an ace away from losing their SL licence. If Crusaders had not pulled out when they did then the Wakefield fans would be watching Championship Rugby. Would they be advocating administration if that had happened?
The RFL have also stated that they will take severe action with any further clubs going into administration. Does this mean revoking the SL licence?, who knows. It is not a risk that I would want my club to take. Think of the enjoyment that the Bulls have given you and what you would miss if the worst happened.
To all Bull fans; Pledge now! raise the £500k to save the club first and then ask the questions of the board which you are well within your rights to have answered.
Best of Luck'"
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| It's a bit frustrating for us at the moment even though we know we can make a pledge now, so far we raised over £300 with our impromptu but most fast selling tombolla stall I've ever seen on Saturday in the Coral Stand, we ended up having to send our Secretary out to restock the stall with easter eggs for the last hour, plus £100 has been pledged (and paid) by the Featherstone Rovers Wheelchair RL team, then we have the Push For Pledges 24 hour wheelchair relay around the pitch from 7.00pm tomorrow until 7.00pm Friday so we can't pledge our total yet.
Just hoping the snow clears and we don't have to clear the track to do it but if we need to I'm sure it will be done.
Come on everyone, Adey has been the voice of reason amongst others and should have put a lot of minds at rest, pledge now and save this great Club and it's not just a Rugby League Club it's a way of life.
Come on you Bulls.
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| Quote ="Gill J"It's a bit frustrating for us at the moment even though we know we can make a pledge now, so far we raised over £300 with our impromptu but most fast selling tombolla stall I've ever seen on Saturday in the Coral Stand, we ended up having to send our Secretary out to restock the stall with easter eggs for the last hour, plus £100 has been pledged (and paid) by the Featherstone Rovers Wheelchair RL team, then we have the Push For Pledges 24 hour wheelchair relay around the pitch from 7.00pm tomorrow until 7.00pm Friday so we can't pledge our total yet.
Just hoping the snow clears and we don't have to clear the track to do it but if we need to I'm sure it will be done.
Come on everyone, Adey has been the voice of reason amongst others and should have put a lot of minds at rest, pledge now and save this great Club and it's not just a Rugby League Club it's a way of life.
Come on you Bulls.'"
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| Quote ="debaser"To be fair, if the Bulls don't survive, some of the blame would have to lie with the fans who don't pledge. They have happily accepted £75 season tickets, yet don't feel the club is worth anymore than that'"
A friend of mine got 3 season tickets but since then lost his job do you expect him to pay 300 quid out of his job seekers allowance.
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| Quote ="redeverready"A friend of mine got 3 season tickets but since then lost his job do you expect him to pay 300 quid out of his job seekers allowance.'"
Not 300 quid, but nobody s saying you have to pay the full 100.
I'm a student, paid for my ST out of my summer job money, which isn't coming in anymore, now i'm living off my loan. I've pledged everything I can, probably more. Not suggesting he skints himself, but every little helps. 5, 10 or 20 pounds from the rest f the ST holders would make a huge difference.
And nobody [iexpects[/i any fan to pay anything. But if these fans expect a SL team in Bradford to watch, then pledging would be a very good idea.
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| Red, the club points out - there is no requirement to pay £100. That was just another example of the unexpected (to them) consequences of their problematical PR.
People can pledge ANYTHING.
Even paying the price of a pint would help.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Not 300 quid, but nobody s saying you have to pay the full 100.
I'm a student, paid for my ST out of my summer job money, which isn't coming in anymore, now i'm living off my loan. I've pledged everything I can, probably more. Not suggesting he skints himself, but every little helps. 5, 10 or 20 pounds from the rest f the ST holders would make a huge difference.
And nobody [iexpects[/i any fan to pay anything. But if these fans expect a SL team in Bradford to watch, then pledging would be a very good idea.'"
Well said, it does not have to be £100, whatever anyone can pledge is a step forward towards that pledge total.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"
Even paying the price of a pint would help.'"
Especially if it's one of those sy wine bars where all the accountants go!
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| Each according to his ability and his circumstances?
I pledged a hell of a lot more than £100. That will help even out for your mate if he can only afford to pledge a small amount.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Especially if it's one of those sy wine bars where all the accountants go!
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Maybe, but its many a year since this one frequented such an establishment!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe, but its many a year since this one frequented such an establishment!'"
Glad to hear it!
Ice and lemon in a pint of cider, something wrong with those places!
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| Quote ="redeverready"A friend of mine got 3 season tickets but since then lost his job do you expect him to pay 300 quid out of his job seekers allowance.'"
You are just being ridiculous now. Noone would expect him to pledge £300. But does he love the club, does he enjoy going? Maybe he could pledge what he can afford? £20 maybe?
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| [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5806/BULLS%20STATEMENT=#800000[size=150LATEST - read here[/size[/url
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| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5806/BULLS%20STATEMENT=#800000[size=150LATEST - read here[/size[/url'"
No-one can argue with that, and I hope highlighting the seriousness will help a few more to pledge.
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| Adey can you clarify on the bit regards - net monies recieved by club following the sale of the odsal lease were lower than originally come to expect.
Had the value of the lease decreased, was it because the rfl called the debt in earlier than expect or some other reason?
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