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| Quote ="the inquisitor"Halley had a shocker today where's all the posts slating him.'"
How dare you say anything about the 'golden boy', we all know he can do no wrong. Whenever he gets the ball the crowd clap, at one point today he caught the ball and ran about three metres, the crown went wild clapping him, quite pathetic really.
He was poor today, out of position, missed tackles, couple of poor passes and generally looked like he couldn't be bothered. He's been talked up on this site since he's been playing at fullback, sure when we have been winning he's had a couple of good games. The problems start and he becomes totally exposed when we are losing and he has to do some work, he's totally out of his depth.
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| Quote ="bigchris"How dare you say anything about the 'golden boy', we all know he can do no wrong. Whenever he gets the ball the crowd clap, at one point today he caught the ball and ran about three metres, the crown went wild clapping him, quite pathetic really.
He was poor today, out of position, missed tackles, couple of poor passes and generally looked like he couldn't be bothered. He's been talked up on this site since he's been playing at fullback, sure when we have been winning he's had a couple of good games. The problems start and he becomes totally exposed when we are losing and he has to do some work, he's totally out of his depth.'"
The supporters... supporting their players? Disgusting.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The supporters... supporting their players? Disgusting.'"
Hmmm. I bet Platt wishes he could be afforded the same sort of leeway that the crowd awards to Halley on a regular basis.
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| Quote ="The-original-&-best-V"Hmmm. I bet Platt wishes he could be afforded the same sort of leeway that the crowd awards to Halley on a regular basis.'"
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| Quote ="The-original-&-best-V"Hmmm. I bet Platt wishes he could be afforded the same sort of leeway that the crowd awards to Halley on a regular basis.'"
Fans will always have their favourites and players who they constantly seek to blame. We have a few on here who look for any opportunity to criticise Halley too.
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| Quote ="The-original-&-best-V"Hmmm. I bet Platt wishes he could be afforded the same sort of leeway that the crowd awards to Halley on a regular basis.'"
He doesn't deserve any leeway, he's made far to many goofs in his Bulls career upto date to be afforded any as such.
Halley deserves the praise he gets, because he performs well with the occasional odd game, where as Platt performs poor, with the occasional good game.
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| Quote ="bigchris"He was poor today, out of position, missed tackles, couple of poor passes and generally looked like he couldn't be bothered. He's been talked up on this site ..... sure when we have been winning he's had a couple of good games. The problems start and he becomes totally exposed when we are losing and he has to do some work, he's totally out of his depth.'"
It's spreading.
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| Quote ="The-original-&-best-V"Hmmm. I bet Platt wishes he could be afforded the same sort of leeway that the crowd awards to Halley on a regular basis.'"
I agree. I also think Platt works the goal line far better than Halley and his physical presence would have been an asset today. If Platt had shown the indecision Halley had on the sideline and then knocked on under pressure as Halley subsequently did he'd have been murdered on here. Platt's a scapegoat, as we know, he's done some dumb things, but he's nowhere near as bad as some make out.
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| Quote ="anarkik"I agree. I also think Platt works the goal line far better than Halley and his physical presence would have been an asset today. If Platt had shown the indecision Halley had on the sideline and then knocked on under pressure as Halley subsequently did he'd have been murdered on here. Platt's a scapegoat, as we know, he's done some dumb things, but he's nowhere near as bad as some make out.'" Another sensible post.
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| Quote ="anarkik"I agree. I also think Platt works the goal line far better than Halley and his physical presence would have been an asset today. If Platt had shown the indecision Halley had on the sideline and then knocked on under pressure as Halley subsequently did he'd have been murdered on here. Platt's a scapegoat, as we know, he's done some dumb things, but he's nowhere near as bad as some make out.'"
I think most reasonable fans can think of positives and negatives for both players. I think Platt's one on one defence is also stronger than Halley's. I agree that Platt has at times come in for some unfair criticism and I have fought his corner on occasions. But this year Halley has on the whole been the much better player for us. Personally I feel much more at ease when a kick is being gathered by Halley. But less confident when a big prop breaks through one on one like we have seen in the last two games.
And you have to remember he has far less experienced at FB than Platt so he should continue to improve with further gametime.
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| Platt didnt even look reserve level yesterday, didnt want to know at all, if hes took his bat and ball home let him go, halley made a couple of mistakes today, but would platt have done any better, would anyone? saints got a roll on and faasavalu/puletua running straight at you is gonna make any fullback indecisive, maurie ran at halley but he stood his ground, slowed him down by going for legs, summat no other bulls player did, and made him offload to one of the many supporting players who was subsequently tackled, he could have backed off, or pooed his pants, i know most of us on here would if you had a 17stone monster running at you.
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| Halley did have a poor game today, but so did numerous others. I don't see anyone slating Burgess for example who really struggled today (probably his worst game for a couple of years). Menzies also struggled after the first 20 minutes or so.
In the same way as Burgess and Menzies though, Halley can be afforded the odd poor game when his form in other games has been excellent. If poor form continues, you'd hope he would lose his place and Platt be given another chance, as the better form player should always be picked. However slating him for one game seems a little OTT.
I'd also echo the point that in the same way some praise Halley no matter how he plays, others slate him no matter how he plays. One rather obvious example of which is on this thread.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Halley did have a poor game today, but so did numerous others. I don't see anyone slating Burgess for example who really struggled today (probably his worst game for a couple of years). Menzies also struggled after the first 20 minutes or so.
In the same way as Burgess and Menzies though, Halley can be afforded the odd poor game when his form in other games has been excellent. If poor form continues, you'd hope he would lose his place and Platt be given another chance, as the better form player should always be picked. However slating him for one game seems a little OTT.
I'd also echo the point that in the same way some praise Halley no matter how he plays, others slate him no matter how he plays. One rather obvious example of which is on this thread.'"
Agreed. Menzies was the worse player on the pitch yesterday. Noone is slating him today.
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| Quote ="debaser"Agreed. Menzies was the worse player on the pitch yesterday. Noone is slating him today.'"
Menzies was garbage. He should be sent back home immediately. Will that do?
BTW, Halley is not big enough for a top level FB.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Menzies was garbage. He should be sent back home immediately. Will that do?
BTW, Halley is not big enough for a top level FB.'"
Thats better.
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| Quote ="tigertot"
BTW, Halley is not big enough for a top level FB.'"
Size-ist!
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| Quote ="the inquisitor"Halley had a shocker today where's all the posts slating him.'"
Sorry I missed the afforementioned shocker, not his best but far from his worst
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| Quote ="anarkik"Size-ist!'"
I do have small-man syndrome. =whiteNot in the willy department obviously.
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| Quote ="tigertot"
BTW, Halley is not big enough for a top level FB.'"
Would you call Brent Webb a top level FB?
Webb: 175cm 83kg
Halley: 175cm 82kg.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Would you call Brent Webb a top level FB?
Webb: 175cm 83kg
Halley: 175cm 82kg.'" But Webb is phyiscally bigger.
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| Quote ="ritz"Platt didnt even look reserve level yesterday, didnt want to know at all, if hes took his bat and ball home let him go, halley made a couple of mistakes today, but would platt have done any better, would anyone? saints got a roll on and faasavalu/puletua running straight at you is gonna make any fullback indecisive, maurie ran at halley but he stood his ground, slowed him down by going for legs, summat no other bulls player did, and made him offload to one of the many supporting players who was subsequently tackled, he could have backed off, or pooed his pants, i know most of us on here would if you had a 17stone monster running at you.'" Sorry but that's rubbish.
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| Quote ="redeverready"But Webb is phyiscally bigger.'"
When they are rougly the same height and weight? More force into the tackle = more chance of bringing them down. Force = Mass x Acceleration Halley has slightly less mass but a lot more pace resulting in a bigger force.
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| Looking at those stats, I would say both Halley and Webb were both very similar in physical attributes. Besides, full back is not a position that demands big players.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Looking at those stats, I would say both Halley and Webb were both very similar in physical attributes. Besides, full back is not a position that demands big players.'"
Stats should always be ignored when it disproves your argument. It's a known fact of forum debating. A tactic I have employed numerous times, since acknowledging said stat would be to admit you were wrong.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Stats should always be ignored when it disproves your argument. It's a known fact of forum debating. A tactic I have employed numerous times, since acknowledging said stat would be to admit you were wrong.'"
Eh?
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