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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"...a personal ing contest...'"
Quote ="Well, who else?"...a "p!ssing contest"...'"
If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck... |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"SNIP'"
If the Bulls win tonight, I think we may have uncovered the underlying problems behind the scenes.
There is a complex betting circle within the Bulls camp, players playing unbelievably poorly until a big game comes up which we are "sure to get pasted" and BANG......£££££££'s in!! |
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| Quote ="Adeybull"If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...'"
How sweet, defending your dame. Such chivalry. |
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Well, Matty Johns has just told the Aussie viewing public to tune in for the Sunday afternoon delayed telecast because it's a top of the table clash...
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"...
(and far from trying to start a "p!ssing contest", I am merely disagreeing with your point. ..'"
I felt that when you unpleasantly put
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FA (Feigning Alzheimers) '"
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Quote ="mystic eddie"... defending your dame. ..'"
... is more of the unpleasant same. |
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| Quote ="af"Well, Matty Johns has just told the Aussie viewing public to tune in for the Sunday afternoon delayed telecast because it's a top of the table clash...'"
Love the avatar maybe the club should get him dressed up has Attila the Hun for some publicity |
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"If the Bulls win tonight, I think we may have uncovered the underlying problems behind the scenes.
There is a complex betting circle within the Bulls camp, players playing unbelievably poorly until a big game comes up which we are "sure to get pasted" and BANG......£££££££'s in!!'"
Indeed, that was my thoughts exactly after the Catalans cup game.
I wonder how much went on on Catalans to win at half time... |
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| Quote ="dixie"I'm going 2moro night for some silly reason. Still not been to a game they have won yet.'"
Good man!
Quote ="dixie"FA, FWIW, your post clearly implied that it would be good to bet on the Bulls cause they JUST beat Leeds. ME was just point out that since JUST beating Leeds they got beat by Wakefield and hammered at home. Makes the bet less of a good deal. '"
You misunderstand. The [ibookies[/i are the ones that make these odds, and they are the ones that take the form into account.
Whereas my point is, form was (by definition) irrelevant in those cases where a big outsider causes a major upset, as they regularly do!
The point is, self-evidently, the past or even recent form isn't going to help you much to predict an upset. But such upsets do regularly happen!
Quote ="dixie"I still don't feel that odds on a rugby game, match that of a two horse race.
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I was using "two horse race" as a cliche and not specifically referring to horses. But there are many similarites, though. SL teams, like horses, do not tend to be entered to compete in events which it is impossible for them to win.
And I'd say it is much easier to get an upset in a team game, such as RL, than in a one-on-one. Not that the latter don't happen, mind you. Anyone remember any of these?
Buster Douglas betaing Mike Tyson (42/1)
North Korea v Italy 1966
Wrexham v Arsenal - F.A. Cup 1992
Greece in Euro 2004 (any match!)
U.S. v England 1950 World Cup
Faroe Isles v Austria 1990
NYGiants beating the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII
Bangladesh v Australia - cricket ODI 18th June 2005 (Bangladesh were 20/1!)
St. Gallen v. Chelsea in 2000 (Chelsea were 1/100)
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Given the history of this particular SL Regular Round fixture at St Helens (Bradford having won 4 from 16) anything better than a 4 to 1 shot is attractive.
I still wouldn't risk any of my 'hard earned' even though Bradford have lost the last three of those sixteen and are about due.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Given the history of this particular SL Regular Round fixture at St Helens (Bradford having won 4 from 16) anything better than a 4 to 1 shot is attractive.
I still wouldn't risk any of my 'hard earned' even though Bradford have lost the last three of those sixteen and are about due.'"
You're probably right, but the time has come to gird the loins and burn some of my hard earned over the M62/A580, so here's hoping . . .
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Whats everyones opinions of what the team should, or will be tonight? If it was upto me I'd go with-
Halley
Tadulala
Sykes
Cook
Sheriffe
Menzies
Jeffries
Lynch
Newton
Scruton
Solomona
Langley
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| Quote ="beefy1"Whats everyones opinions of what the team should, or will be tonight? If it was upto me I'd go with-
Halley
Tadulala
Sykes
Cook
Sheriffe
Menzies
Jeffries
Lynch
Newton
Scruton
Solomona
Langley
Burgess
Kopczac
Olbison
Worrincy
Platt'"
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O boll**ks!! I knew i'd forgotten somone!!
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Gidley and Puletua out for the S men. Game on.
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Bulls in for a try. Game over.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Think I am correct in saying that Saints haven't conceded more than 22 points in a game so far this season, somehow I can't see Bradford beating that.
Are Saints going to struggle to get less than 22 at home to Bradford ? I really doubt it, Saints by 30 for me.'"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The betting odds have now started to come out, and I have laid some money down on Betfair though similar odds are availablewith totesport, who have the Bulls at 12/1 to win.
As some will know, I go to every game thinking we are going to win, but however optimistic or pessimistic you may be, you can't argue that there will only be 17 players from each team coming out of the tunnel. And in my experience, odds of 12/1 in a 2 horse race are rather generous for a team that just beat Leeds.
As is Stan James' offer of Even money with 24 points start.'"
Quote Ferocious Aardvark wrote: And in my experience, odds of 12/1 in a 2 horse race are rather generous for a team that just beat Leeds. '"
Quote ="mystic eddie"Is it any good for a team that just lost to Wakefield and were humiliated at home by lowly Warrington?'"
[size=150Yes. Oh, yes. Yes, it is.[/size
Quote ="mystic eddie"It is just that fact that someone could read this, and not know anything about rugby league.and see your point and think, Flippin' 'eck, This side just beat Leeds, they must be pretty ok, when actually the opposite is a lot closer to the truth. '"
[size=150No, they could read your poisonous, anti-Bulls crap and (due to endless repetition adfucckinginfinitum they might misguidedly believe you had some sort of point.[/size
Quote ="mystic eddie"I know the point that he is making, and, if it was on the back of a good win v Leeds and a run of decent form it would be very good odds indeed. However, it is not.'"
[size=150I think it fscking was, actually  [/size
Quote ="mystic eddie" 12/1 would be good odds if the horses were of similar stature. However, not so much if the two horses included one impressive thoroughbred and one Blackpool donkey.'"
[size=150"Blackpool donkeys", eh?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"[size=150Yes. Oh, yes. Yes, it is.[/size
[size=150No, they could read your poisonous, anti-Bulls crap and (due to endless repetition adfucckinginfinitum they might misguidedly believe you had some sort of point.[/size
[size=150I think it fscking was, actually
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[size=150"Blackpool donkeys", eh?
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I'm in a really good mood. I've not even had a drink.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Good man!
You misunderstand. The [ibookies[/i are the ones that make these odds, and they are the ones that take the form into account.
Whereas my point is, form was (by definition) irrelevant in those cases where a big outsider causes a major upset, as they regularly do!
The point is, self-evidently, the past or even recent form isn't going to help you much to predict an upset. But such upsets do regularly happen!
I was using "two horse race" as a cliche and not specifically referring to horses. But there are many similarites, though. SL teams, like horses, do not tend to be entered to compete in events which it is impossible for them to win.
And I'd say it is much easier to get an upset in a team game, such as RL, than in a one-on-one. Not that the latter don't happen, mind you. Anyone remember any of these?
Buster Douglas betaing Mike Tyson (42/1)
North Korea v Italy 1966
Wrexham v Arsenal - F.A. Cup 1992
Greece in Euro 2004 (any match!)
U.S. v England 1950 World Cup
Faroe Isles v Austria 1990
NYGiants beating the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII
Bangladesh v Australia - cricket ODI 18th June 2005 (Bangladesh were 20/1!)
St. Gallen v. Chelsea in 2000 (Chelsea were 1/100)
Papua New Guinea 20-18 Great Britain 1990 (GB 28 point favourites)
Sheffield 17 v Wigan 8 1998 CC Final
=cyanSaints v Bradford 2009 ??????????????????????'"
Mate.. I'm not going to attempt to argue.
Beat Saints at Knowsley Road, seriously the best league game i've seen given the circumstances and such.
COME ON YOU BULLS!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_lol.gif
You're probably right, but the time has come to gird the loins and burn some of my hard earned over the M62/A580, so here's hoping . . .
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I told you you were due.
Thanks for inducing that new Saints 5th tackle option. They deserved to get beat for that moment all on it's own.
Pass it Barnstoneworth, get it away Barnstoneworth, oh Barnstoneworth. |
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| Quote ="Bulldozer"Just taken a look on Betfair and odds are currently 16/1 for a Bulls win - Like FA I'm also an eternal optimist and it's payday so I can afford to lose a small wager - got to be worth a punt.'"
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