If the OSV gets mothballed then both clubs could share VP on equal terms. The Council could use the money they were putting towards Odsal to buy back Valley Parade from Gordon Gibb, some rows could be taken out of the front of the Kop so the pitch could be extended a little and the second tier of the main stand could be finished off so that it actually reaches the end of the playing area...in theory of course.

I think any changes to the currenct "shape" of the ground are pretty much impossible due to building restrictions (Unless some housing in demolished!)

they could use the money to build a brand new away stand

The away stand at Valley Parade is home to home supporters at the moment. You can get a pretty good view from the upper tier of the stand. Capacity of the ground is 25,136 all seater. (i think).
At the moment, there's no real need for expansion at Valley Parade. Bradford City average out about 11,000 turnout, and the Bulls get just under 10,000. There were plans to expand Valley Parade to in excess of 35,000. This could be done by extending the main stand to the end of the pitch (as you said), add a second tier to the Midland Road stand and build a new bigger and better Bradford End Stand. So it has the potential to expand if it's required.

Isn't it the RFL's job seen as they own it?

they don't own it.

They own the lease. Like Bradford do with Odsal.

The co-op own cougar park.

Shouldn't you be barracking the co-op to build you a new ground then?

BTW how would a new cougar park help provide South Bradford PCT with a new surgery, Bradford Uni and Bradford College with sports facilities in South Bradford and a replacement for the soon to be defunct Richard Dunns Sport Centre in South Bradford?

I suppose they could do park and ride services from the levelled Richard Dunns site up to Keighley?

I don't know, but then again I haven't advocated anybody building a new ground for Keighley. My earlier post was highlighting the fact that Odsal is now your responsibility. You were paid £4 1/2 million to take it on. If that hasn't worked out, then you need to get on to your ex chairman for his lack of costings.

I don't really care about South Bradford, in the same way you lot don't care about Keighley.

I do care about fairness though, and there's no arguing that a lot of money has gone Odsals way. You were supposed to be in control of your own destiny 7 years ago, it hasn't worked out and your back onto the council again. Can you not see why some people would find this a little bit annoying?

Is it not about caring about Bradford rather than South Bradford, North Bradford, Keighley, etc? I would want to see the best stadiums and sports facilities for everyone in Bradford. I wouldn't want to see Keighley go under, any more than I would City or Park Avenue. Are we not all part of the same city?

My guess is that the good burghers of Keighley no more feel part of Bradford than do the millionaires of Ilkley...?

Why don't they go independent then? The Republic of Keighey anyone?
Passport control could be at the end of the Bingley by-pass. The horrible end that is, not the nice end.

Last I heard, most of them indeed wanted to...get the old Town Council back.

Then of course we have the situation of Bingley, and the likes of me living in Bingley Rural. UDI for Bingley too??



[i=#FF0000I can understand why Keighley folk don't recognise the fact that they are in Bradford. In exactly the same way that Leigh is strictly speaking part of Wigan.

Theres a growing level of descent from these small towns who want to gain their independence from the big city that traditionally gives them scant respect. Even Morley is now governed by people who want to take it out of Leeds.[/i

Edit 18:49 17/2/10 - the two paragraphs I have highlighted were not posted by me. Someone has seemingly been abusing their rights and editing someone else's posts. Whether this is in any way connected with a controversy on another thread I have no idea, although I have had the same thing happen to me once on the Hudds board, I assumed by one of their mods.

In a shock move today, Bradford Bulls have been bought by self proclaimed food mogul Mr. Ram Jam Buttyman who has not only pledged to take the club into a new era of success, but to bridge links with the local varied community.

Mr Buttyman , of Anglo, Irish, Scottish, Italian, Bangladeshi decent wants to tap into all aspects of local culture: “I want the bulls to be a bit like me; a bit of everything” he said and revealed plans to work with the community and raise funding to build a peoples stadium for the peoples team. The new facility based at Odsal will be a super mosque which will totally enclose a 25,000 capacity all kneeling stadium known as the “curry bowl”. There will be an adjacent whippet racing track enclosed by a C of E / RC church at one end and a synagogue/betting shop at the other. “I think these revolutionary ideas will appeal to everyone” he said.

The soon to be renamed bulls will ground share with a local Kabaddi team and Mr Buttyman expects dual registration between some of the players. He commented that the Bulls appear experts at avoiding physical contact so they should make great Kabaddi players.

He revealed a revolutionary all new black latex one piece Burka as his home kit, and expects brisk replica sales in the city centre. The away kit is yet to be revealed but is thought to be a toss up between a kilt and a toga.

He commented that the new kit gave him the idea for the new team name – The Bradford Burks which he thought sounded rather catchy. He was also very pleased that coach Macca was changing his name to Mecca as a show of support. The coach commented “we can take a lot of positives out of this”.

When questioned, Mr Buttyman revealed that the extent of his food empire was a burger van, but claimed that his sister had an ice cream trolley and his brother a Roti house. He maintained however, that they had as much chance of raising funding as existing schemes.

PS this is just a bit of fun – absolutely no racial puns intended, just the product of a bored lunch hour. I personally think it will work.

How can you feel part of somewhere with a totally different post code? I didn't mortgage myself to the hilt to be associated with secondary towns in the district.

Places like Leigh and Keighley would never be able to stand on their own two feet. Plus, it would be a total waste of resources to have all these places governed by seperate councils!

I very much doubt that the likes of Leigh, Keighley, Morley and places like Saddleworth would be any better off on their own. They still have their own strong identities, irrespective of being in Wigan, Bradford, Leeds and Oldham!

To follow your logic it would be a better use of resources to merge into a super West Yorkshire council with the seat of power in the major city ie Leeds. Bradford would still have its identity though - how does that suit you?

The metropolitan districts need the "small" outlaying towns more than the towns need them. Bradford would be more of an underdeveloped slum without them.

Its interesting that there were very strong noises that Leeds were trying to pry Bingley, Keighley and Skipton from Bradford Met a few years ago.

Why not? Surely we would be raising roughly the same funding per head via the rates (showing my age there) as at the present, and the number of heads would reduce? In fact, it could be argued that a seperate Keighley borough or council could raise more per head than the combined district, depending how the boundary is drawn.



As opposed to the super efficient BDMC?



That's the issue though, we don't, and there's always a perception that we are picking up scraps. The decision to lump Keighley in with Bradford was a mistake.

Things have improved since the town council was formed around 10 years ago.

That's a very good point. I often read Bradfordians greivances towards Leeds re peoples perception and funding, yet the same attitudes prevail when it comes to Bradfords attituide to towards Keighley.

Great post.

Will you be joining the KPF then?



I notice that in the Airedale masterplan that Bingley and Shipley are stuck in with Keighley in a "corridor". It might be the best way forward for the outlying towns.

=#800000Right. Its quite simple. Whoever edited my post to add in those two paragraphs, own up to it now and apologise or I will take this up with Site Admin. I did NOT post those paragraphs.

If I HAD posted them, I rather think I would have spelt "dissent" correctly.

I indeed remember reading your post earlier today without the paragraphs in question.

What the f is going on today with all these altered posts?
Big brother is watching. I'm scared.

The alteration of Adey's post is unacceptable in fairly representing his opinions.
The Board's integrity of posters has been compromised by this.
Can the Mods tell us how this happened and assure us it will not happen again

I can understand why Keighley folk don't recognise the fact that they are in Bradford. In exactly the same way that Leigh is strictly speaking part of Wigan.

Theres a growing level of dissent from these small towns who want to gain their independence from the big city that traditionally gives them scant respect. Even Morley is now governed by people who want to take it out of Leeds.

DAMN IT TO BUGGERY, IT TRANSPIRES IT WAS ME!!!!

And the reason I did it is slightly more dull than you would all like I'm afraid. For us Mods right next to the "quote" button is the "edit" button. And in penning my response I pressed the wrong one and thought nothing more about it.

I humbly apologise. It was a genuine mistake not an attempt to convey a different message from Adrian. Is the conspiracy still alive?