Even with the mediocrity in the back line the players we have in the team should be turning in better performances than that.

My prediction? He'll be gone by Easter.

I hope he's gone by monday.

Well by looking at the future games its not looking good up to Easter
Hull, Cats, Cas and Rhino`s only game looking likely is a win at Cas and that looks unlikely after our performance tonight.

Cas are scoring for fun. They will rip us apart.

After that embarrassment tonight, I fear that the situation I hoped would never arise has come to pass, and now cannot wait for ten games.

I have been hammering on about folk who seemingly revel in negativity for the sake of it, and up till tonight it was looking like the Dark Side was losing a little of its grip on some of our more sceptical contributors.

But there was a great deal to be very negative about tonight, and precious little in the way of positives, I suggest? Morro, Menzies, Platt and maybe Burgess coming closest. But overall that was very very depressing.

The Dark Side is very strong right now, and the Negative Tendency is becoming the Negative Tsunami. If we get one more identikit media release in the T&A now, even I am going to be at the end of my tether.

We look the laughing stock of the game right now, the more so if Wire should win tomorrow.

Its clear Newton was carrying that injury from last week - probably unfair to slate him if thats the case. Maybe others are? Hope that Wagga's injury is not as bad as feared - best wishes to him.

OK, say so we sack the coach; we have to pay him his package up to the end of the year anyway. Where does that leave the money to pay his - likely much more expensive - replacement?

I suggest we need some plain talking from the club - now. Tell us how it is.

Will he do the coming back bit three days later????



Badumsh!

Everyone around me tonight said they hope macca resigns, some fans dont help by saying players are crap.
One bloke shouted out to platt, oi platt go back to salford ur crap, platt turned back round and his head dropped. But he did have a good game, better than a fair few others, once again sherriffe did diddly squat, even halley has something about him in pace, sherriffe doesnt even have that.

Morrison, Burgess, Menzies, Platt all worked hard, and the squad isn't bust, but the coaching is. Poor marker defence, big hits rather than ball and all tackling, a play pattern that is now so predictable you can call them in advance, coupled with a cross field link between two halves that is so slow the opposition needn't move up - apart from they do and frequently threaten Deacon on the last play, resulting in awful kicking.

Rotation is bizarre coupled with occasionally suicidal - Wigan in 2006 play-offs - but there's evidence of it in every match - Tell me why Matt James, one of a few fit players was on the pitch for little more than 15-20mins, whilst Menzies is being left out for the full 80 or near as damn it. That tells its own story - because two aussie post-30 yr old second rowers are our most creative players. That in turn illustrates a rather odd pattern of recruitment, because let's face it McNamara's strategy is recruit second rowers who might be able to play as stand in half backs, front rowers or centres - the squad's full of them.

I haven't joined the debate between the naughty boys and girls and the patronising school teacher types for fear of ending up in a 'camp'. But anyone who thinks this is a blip, down to injuries, or some other lame excuse is missing the point. this is a direct outcome of a poor system that has become ingrained and needs uprooting. MacNamara has to go, they'll be plenty of applicants for his job, it's not as if RL has a surplus of SL coaching opportunities. Oh and I was at the match and in the half of our crowd who applauded the players for their efforts, irrespective of the performance, rather than booing, shouting for their money back or giving the players the finger (all of which was predictable but WRONG). If this goes on too much longer we'll start to eat in to the 10,000 home crowd that is our base, and that will make the situation much worse.

I think that says it all.

Another person underestimating Cas........

That was disgraceful, I felt ashamed to be in same stand as that pr1ck. That was just after Tomkins break, Morrison clipped him then Platt finished him off - gave away a penalty when Tomkins conned the ref by holding Platt down - but still try - saving tackle. Then some idiot abuses him for making a great tackle, I despair .

Agreed.

The highlighted part is the only bit I don't agree with simply because a poor performance doesn't deserve applauding. Applauding should be for when praise is deserved.

That`s what i mean another totally embarrasing day to look forward too

Not really, a club like Bradford should be beating the majority of the clubs in the league - including Cas.

I would love to be like Cas at the minute, a team full of exciting youngsters that give there all every game.

Applauding is for the effort, and for wearing the shirt, making & taking the hits. Anyway - the general consensus is that it was not the players fault tonight, the boos mainly came when Sky put up a live shot of McNamara.

Ah well, everyone has a different interpretation it seems. The crowd seemed pretty split with 50% doing nothing or booing, and the other half clapping.

I stood still and stayed til the end, but didn't clap or boo.

Yes and some of them did deserve praise, some of them still had the enthusiasm to form a scrum (some didn't), some of them took a belting, and some played well despite being abused from the stands before the game had got going, one of them probably has quite a serious injury and others played on with injuries. I reckon unless you are sure you would/could do the same/better then it's at least worth some applause to acknowledge those who did make the effort. Not only that, I haven't seen Wire improve in leaps and bounds with their fans booing them at every opportunity, something i hope we stay clear of, just as long as we also stay clear of their ex-coach!

Well, that was a waste of diesel.

We actually put together a performance that was bad for 80 minutes. A performance that one or two posters have been praying for. The OP must have used up several boxes of tissues as the match progressed, and I don't think he was crying.

In the previous games, there have been some very good aspects of the performances and many players have done well enough - the majority, probably - but tonight, it was difficult to pick out more than a handful who emerged with any credit at all.

The magnificent three of menzies, Morro and Burgess were the pick, and oh how i wish that nincompooop Thaler would have got TF out of the way of the pass to Jeffries who was clear, 12-6 coming up to half-time would have been a different proposition but as usual, when you're crap, your luck is crap too, and we kept up our record of gifting the opposition position, length of the field progression and a try in the dying moments of the half, which is our speciality this year.

I don't know if Deacon had concussion and blurred vision last week, but he played and kicked as if he still has. Jeffries was awful again.

Any more positives? Well, Platt had another very solid game, and was easily the pick of the "Backs", though as far as I could see, during the game we picked up injuries to Platt, Newton (who could hardly stand up by the end), Godwin (sounded like a break), Nero to name but a few. This did not help, but it does not excuse the general level of performance which was in a word abysmal. We never once looked like we would score, so much so that when we did avtually string an attack together, the useless Sheriffe put the ball down post haste instead of running a few clear yards to improve the angle, as he probably thought he was dreaming and wanted to score before he woke up.

Needless to say, Deacon's kick was nearer our posts than Wigans. Was he drunk? From normally metronomic kicking, apart frm that shambolic slice, he was lobbing low dollies straight to the oppo wingers or full back, or kicking out miles on the full. Unbelievable, really, for a kicker of his quality.

One to forget, and I fervently hope a one-off. I don't care how many are injured, i want more fire in the belly and more effort than that.

No you shouldn't. An average side, just like Wigan. You have no divine right to win games. They have to be earnt. Teams like Cas, Huddersfield, Wakefield, Quins are just as capable as any other side in the league.

And people on this site think I talk rubbish

I don't. I know it.

What's with 'school teacher' being used as a pejorative term?





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Just watched the game on repeat on Aus TV now, suspected the worst when they scored on the half so had a look on here and had the worst confirmed.

We look toothless, no doubt about that. Discipline that had been praised in the past few weeks seems have gone backwards, though we got some pretty harsh calls.

I think that was a pretty decent Wigan performance that would probably have seen of most sides in the league, albeit not by 34 points. It was a thumping of the sort most sides suffer every now and then but we've generally avoided in the McNamara era.

What do we do about it? It would be nice to think we could take simple and swift action to change things for the better. I am still to be convinced as too whether this is the case. The majority on here don't seem to care too much about the consequences. They want McNamara sacked as vengance for performances such as last night's and then... what? Still there are no answers and while that remains the case I see no reason to change my position.

Now I have no doubt that this isn't good enough for people, they're unhappy and they want blood. But blood didn't make the sun rise for the Aztecs and I don't see blood improving things at Odsal.

BTW, Saints winning 4 nil at Celtic and Catalans losing a second home game despite featuring you-know-who suggests this league has yet to really settle down...

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