If it ment getting Odsal redeveloped then I'd be happy sharing with virtually anyone. Oh that takes me back to my school days.

www.bcst.co.uk/?q=node/1508 Quote David Pendleton opened proceedings by explaining that he had organised this event so that City fans could discuss the situation about ground-sharing and related issues among themselves. He would be inviting the Leader of Bradford Council, representatives of other political parties and of Bradford City FC and the Bradford Bulls to take part in a similar meeting before the next home game vs. Port Vale on March 21. He then outlined the situation facing Bradford Bulls, who cannot continue in their present stadium for much longer, and have enlisted the support of the Council in helping to build them a new venue through the Odsal Sports Village (OSV) project. This is the latest in a long line of Council initiatives to help the Bulls, which is in marked contrast to their relationship with Bradford City, as David explained by referring to a number of historical examples, including the attitude of the Council at the time of City’s financial crisis in 2004'" My impression of their attitude was that they did their level best to shove the Bulls to VP so that the pay-off on the lease would go straight to City, bailing them out. I also don't see the comparison between the 2004 BCFC crisis, born of ludicrous mismanagement and the Bulls' problems which stem from Bradford Council's mismanagement of Odsal.

www.bcst.co.uk/?q=node/1508 Quote David Pendleton opened proceedings by explaining that he had organised this event so that City fans could discuss the situation about ground-sharing and related issues among themselves. He would be inviting the Leader of Bradford Council, representatives of other political parties and of Bradford City FC and the Bradford Bulls to take part in a similar meeting before the next home game vs. Port Vale on March 21. He then outlined the situation facing Bradford Bulls, who cannot continue in their present stadium for much longer, and have enlisted the support of the Council in helping to build them a new venue through the Odsal Sports Village (OSV) project. This is the latest in a long line of Council initiatives to help the Bulls, which is in marked contrast to their relationship with Bradford City, as David explained by referring to a number of historical examples, including the attitude of the Council at the time of City’s financial crisis in 2004'" My impression of their attitude was that they did their level best to shove the Bulls to VP so that the pay-off on the lease would go straight to City, bailing them out. I also don't see the comparison between the 2004 BCFC crisis, born of ludicrous mismanagement and the Bulls' problems which stem from Bradford Council's mismanagement of Odsal.

Every time Pendleton speaks he seems to be having a go at the Bulls, by whingeing about the councils' alleged extreme financial bias in favour of Bulls at the expense of City. His slant seems to be that the Bulls have for years been showered with reams of free money whereas poor old City have been ignored. The agenda is clear - they want to stay at VP at all costs, presumably paid for by giant subs from the Council, and for the Bulls to be kicked off Odsal and be second class citizen tenants paying huge rents etc through the nose to "ground share" the VP concrete monstrosity.

I find it odd that so many of the most vocal critics of City moving to Odsal seem to be under the impression that Odsal will remain in its current state when it is obvious that the OSV development is a pre-requisite.

Cos the majority of City fans are dumb?

Bradford Northern/Bulls have had plenty of years to sort themselves out somewhere to play without having to rely on the council have they not?

The council's mismanagement of Odsal since 1985/86 is largely the reason it's in such a mess now. Had they managed to complete the proposed development for the Speedway WC final then the ground would have had two completed stands and terracing all the way around plus additional buildings for the club. Unfortuantely the scheme went by the wayside when it was half complete, leaving the club with a ground less suited for RL than beforehand.

I can understand City fans wish to stay put. It's the same for Bulls supporters. It'll be a devil of a job to persuade either party to move across town.

The only way I can see city fans maybe moving is if the new OSV bears no relation to the present Odsal and is badged up 50/50 as Bulls & City. Even then many would be against it.

Similarly I can't see Bulls fans putting up with a move to VP unless the future of the club was at risk. That's more likely to be due to finance than any RFL marking too.

Yes, they've had billions sitting in the bank just waiting for a site to come up. The interest alone must run in to millions now. They should just buy Old Trafford and get on with it.

Well it's tough sh*t isn't it?

I'd love a much bigger and better place to live, but I aint whining that no-one else will sort it out for me, the reason the club is at the mercy of the council is because they, historically, never thought being in charge of their own destiny was worth it.

Calm yourself, you'll do a mischief!

The club is NOT at the mercy of the Council. However IF the club is to stay at Odsal or perhaps even in Bradford, then it cannot happen unless either the OSV or some other such scheme come to pass, because nobody has had the financial muscle, nor ever will have (Russian oligarchs absent) to pay to plant a decent stadium in the Odsal bowl. You know this.

If your house was falling down, or was seriously overcrowded, or other valid reason, the Council would if you qualified sort it out for you, so stop talking dross. They would sort it out for you even though (I am admittedly presuming) thousands of the local population don't come and watch you perform, and none of them give a shi# where you live. If you are a major porn star I apologise for the last comment.

Not if they'd previously handed me over a large cheque to give me responsibility for sorting such problems out.

I've stated over and over again that I don't think pro sports clubs should be benefitting from public money so I'm not going to get into it again.

You know what the large cheque was for, and it certainly was not to build a new stadium - in comparison to the cost of which it would have been better described as a miniscule cheque.

But as I understand it, OSV is certainly not the Bulls "benefitting from public money", it is a joint venture between several parties and needs the Bulls' ground to make it feasible. The Bulls would, of course, benefit from the arrangement - but not for nothing, and so would everyone else in the district, as well as the immediate partners.

There is no rule that a pro sports club is forever compelled to operate as a solo entity.

Sorry Asim not wanting to have a go at you personaly here but when you see things like this written by Football fans it really does not inspire any confidence in doing what City want us to do and move to VP to ease their rent issues.



We would be back to being second class rent paying tenants somewhere where we are tolerated rather than wanted, you only have to read some of the BCFC forums to see that.

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TRY for . . . . anything, but that.

Don't worry, we don't want you.

Who's we? Many on the City boards seem quite keen on having (making even) the Bulls move in.

Me and my army.

I can't see any of this happening, due to the fact of the bantams.
6,000 fans have already signed a petition to say that if they move out of valley parade they will not go watch city any more.
Also, to buy Valley Parade it cost's 2.5 mill however to buy the sporting village it cost's 15 mill, i see it has only the bulls in favour of this going ahead.

Really? First I've heard of this, I think you might be getting it confused with the number of season tickets sold for next season.

I'm sure the majority of City fans would accept the Bulls at VP if they really had to (ie to guarantee the future of the club), though you don't readily invite someone back to your house when they decided to sh*t on the carpet on their last visit.

Where does this them and us attitude come from. I think you'll find that the majority of city fans are Bulls fans anyway and just want the best outcome for both teams. This is not Wigan you know, and I don't think we need to hear your unconstuctive bile posted on here Asim.

I learnt how to do it from the Bulls fans whining about anything and everything during 2001 and 2002.

What a thought.

I'd rather not....

Certainly not if the unpleasant bile we've seen posted on here is anything to go by.

As has already been said,there is little chance of a Sugar Daddy coming to the rescue of either the Bulls or City and both need more security than they have at present,in order to survive long term.Obviously a successful winning team would help matters from an attendance point of view,but both are in the process of rebuilding right now.Despite the size of Bradford,its' population in the main seem not to be sport keen and unlike Leeds or Manchester etc,our Clubs cannot count on big crowds to get them through.Even when on the 'up',I don't think we would regularly see 20,000 or so fans in to support either code here in this City,therefore the conclusion has to be weighted towards a groundshare scheme.City is the more facillitated ground,but is the pitch suitable in width for SL really?On the other hand,maybe we could apply to have the age old Odsal Stadium recognised as a Heritage Site marking its' place in Rugby League history.OSV to me is the answer,as ground sharing between sports will be more and more on Clubs agenda as costs rise and crowds dwindle.