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| Seems you're quite strong in centre position but he has had a really solid season this season imo. If I had it my way he'd be with us again next year, formed a very solid partnership with Mantellato on our left. Not like there's much better than him available on the market, especially English.
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| Decent & British. But ginger.
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| Some potential, but I think his role as Chesney disrupts his training too much, he needs to choose.
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| I like ginger knacks, or I have done when I've seen him play. That said not seen much for couple a years but he was a good prospect a few years back.
Is he any better than what we have, Blythe, Purtell, Nielsen? He would be ideal to come in and put some pressure on our other centres but didn't he sign a five year deal at KR when he was highly thought of?
Probably on a good whack and wants to find something similar.
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| 101 tries in a 190 games for us had a really good season for us but the two previous to that were very average
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"I like ginger knacks, or I have done when I've seen him play. That said not seen much for couple a years but he was a good prospect a few years back.
Is he any better than what we have, Blythe, Purtell, Nielsen? He would be ideal to come in and put some pressure on our other centres but didn't he sign a five year deal at KR when he was highly thought of?
Probably on a good whack and wants to find something similar.'"
I'd say he's no better than what we have, to be honest. You can also add in Walshaw as a centre too, though we'll presumably be losing Phillipe-Baile, Adam Henry, Ryan Shaw and Chev Walker, all occasional centres, so much of the 'depth' will be gone.
I think we've clearly yet to see the best from Nielson though, whilst he's been 'steady' he's not looked like the State of Origin player he was. In terms of Welham, it depends on lots of things, in particular which division we're going to be in, whether Jimmy feels we need more depth and who else might be available, though for my money, whichever division, I feel we need to concentrate on more quality than depth. We definitely went too far on depth this year with a number of players not even getting a game and I'm not sure we can really afford to that again..
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| Certainly don't think we've seen too much from Nielsen in an attacking sense. Do think he's tightened up our defense down that considerably though which was like a revolving door earlier in season. Think a Pre-season will help him a lot as he doesn't look 100% match fit. Think We've definitely seen last of henry, shaw and walker. not so sure about baille. There were rumours he was homesick earlier in year but he does seem to still be featuring in 19 man squad fairly regularly so maybe he is staying, although I'd expect him to be mainly a 2nd row going forward and just a emergency .
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| To be fair to Nielsen, he was MoM versus Widnes albeit in amongst some poor performances from some others in our side. I would agree, that defensively he looks calm and organised and not much has got past him in the games I've seen. I think he does fairly well considering the time spent not playing, flying to the other side of the world and slotting into a new team.
As for Welham, he's always struck me as a dependable and strong centre. He's probably a good fit for a lower end SL club and will do very well if dropping to Championship. Given the position we'll be in re recruitment if we do win the £1M game, I'd say he'd be a decent signing. I expect quite of our fringe outside backs will be moving on.
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| I'm just as sceptical about signing Welham as I was about us signing Caro. So I dunno.
I hope mat is right about Baile!
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| Quote ="mat":5nzhwguiCertainly don't think we've seen too much from Nielsen in an attacking sense. Do think he's tightened up our defense down that considerably though which was like a revolving door earlier in season. Think a Pre-season will help him a lot as he doesn't look 100% match fit. Think We've definitely seen last of henry, shaw and walker. not so sure about baille. There were rumours he was homesick earlier in year but he does seem to still be featuring in 19 man squad fairly regularly so maybe he is staying, although I'd expect him to be mainly a 2nd row going forward and just a emergency Centre.'" been re-signed for next season - Chev, we know is to be on the backroom staff next year, but with no mention of new contracts for the others, so I'd guess they will be leaving for pastures new. Maybe contracts for certain players depend on the result at Wakey? I'd expect this might possibly have a bearing on it.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"101 tries in a 190 games for us had a really good season for us but the two previous to that were very average'"
Had some horrendous injuries and it took him some time to regain his confidence in the two seasons prior to this one. This year has approached his early level of performance and I would expect him to improve further next year. I will be sorry to see him go. Could not agree terms for 2016.
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| He's been very good for us this year, particularly defensively, but Watkins made him look stupid in the CC final.
Welham can be very creative at times as well and yesterday he set up Mantellato with a beauty of a flicked pass.
Would be a good signing if he ends up with you. Certainly as good if not better than what you have already.
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| Watkins has done that to better players than Welham, to be fair.
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| ...and now, [url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_19850-off-the-record-rugby-league-transfer-gossip-5.htmlRiley[/url. A bit of a ginger theme developing!
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| It's political correctness gone mad.
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| Quote ="tigertot"It's political correctness gone mad.'"
I blame Corbyn.
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| Please god no!!!!
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| I still can't decide if I wanted him to stay or not. He's had a good season to be fair and has a great try scoring record, lots of SL experience.. I can't understand the people saying 'God no', if you come up you'll be a lower half side which Welham has proved he is capable of, if you lose on Saturday Welham would be a very good championship centre. His defensive reads are his biggest flaw, flying out of the line when it's not needed. Not always clinical putting his winger away and has lost some pace, but this year he has been good for us. He is apparently on a lot of dough because we offered him a lot when his stock was high and bigger clubs were sniffing around. Now we don't want to pay him that much any more as his stock has fallen and we want better value I assume, it's a shame but can't blame him for looking elsewhere. He's a good bloke, no on or off field discipline issues and I think he'd be a good signing for
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| Quote ="Nifty Bifty"His defensive reads are his biggest flaw, flying out of the line when it's not needed. Not always clinical putting his winger away and has lost some pace'"
You've not sold him to me.
I think the "God no" above is aimed at Riley.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"You've not sold him to me.
I think the "God no" above is aimed at Riley.'"
It most certainly was!
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"You've not sold him to me.
I think the "God no" above is aimed at Riley.'"
I tried to give a balanced opinion on him, but it doesn't really work when you just read the negative and ignore the positives
The 2 seasons prior to this one I'd give you 'God no' bad, but he's redeemed himself enough this season for me to stick up for him
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| Quote ="Nifty Bifty"I tried to give a balanced opinion on him, but it doesn't really work when you just read the negative and ignore the positives
The 2 seasons prior to this one I'd give you 'God no' bad, but he's redeemed himself enough this season for me to stick up for him'"
Just jesting my friend. I think he'd be a decent addition. He's always seemed to play well against us. He wouldn't be guaranteed a starting spot as our current centres are both signed up for next year but competition is good.
The only negatives comments I've seen in the past were on your forum about him being a "revolving door". He was linked with us a couple of years back.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Just jesting my friend. I think he'd be a decent addition. He's always seemed to play well against us. He wouldn't be guaranteed a starting spot as our current centres are both signed up for next year but competition is good.
The only negatives comments I've seen in the past were on your forum about him being a "revolving door". He was linked with us a couple of years back.'"
Yeah at his worst, revolving door isn't far off. Although I put some of that down to our defensive structure under Sandercock, we tended to go umberella style trying to shut the attack down before it got out wide which usually leaves your centres as the fall guy. In reality if everyone inside you goes, you aren't left much choice but because you are the last man to come in it looks like it's your fault.
He has been much improved this year defensively, and has developed an awesome fend to compensate for his loss of a yard of pace, makes good metres coming from your own end. If he signs I hope he goes well if he plays like he has this season you'll all be happy with him I reckon.
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| Quote ="MDF"I blame Corbyn.'"
He has ,admirably, stuck to his socialist roots, but I'm afraid he is trying to disguise his ginger roots.
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| He could just get Diane to sit on them. That would work.
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