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| Quote ="Duckman"And I think thats a fair stance, the only problem is if the people in charge of what to do with OSV start to listen to the fans and the only organised fans are the city fans then we might lose out.
If momentum swung behind a move away from Odsal (and I know there is nothing yet to suggest this is the case) I would hope any organised fans group would put forward a case for Odsal on our behalf or at least offer a view.'"
got to admit thats my worry too. city fans have only talked about possibility of a ground share since the OSV started to look likely to go through. Before the money from the airport sale was earmarked for OSV they were pretty opposed to us moving to VP. ITs only because they see a possibility of using the money for their own benfit that they are suddenly so keen to ground share. What they never mention is that while it may only take 6 million to buy VP back from gibb, they are also committed to pay rent their for next 20 years or so and would have to come to a settlement figure with the pension fund to get out of that arrangement, hence the true cost of buying VP back would be substantially more.
They also fail to mention any of the wider aspects of the OSV and constantly refer to it as purely a new stadium for the bulls and ignore all the other facilities which are part of the scheme. Whilst the club has to keep itsellf at a distance from the scheme to an extent, the damage is being done by the city supporters trust constantly getting their views presented to the public whilst we say nothing.
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| If there was a group of non Bulls supporters that spoke for the different people who'd benefit from the OSV then that would be ideal but their isn't. I think Bulls fans should be wary of being drawn into the argument and appearing to be just out for themselves. The reason to build the OSV is to provide better sports facilities long term for people in the south of the city and beyond. If that means a new Stadium for us and City in a perfect out of town location with good transport links then all the better.
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| Latest update (from AGM) [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/4782018.Hood_s_high_hopes_for_Odsal_project/here.[/url
Hood still very positive.
Not the most flattering pics of our Chairman though...suspect from his expression he'd just been reading some of the garbage posted on the T&A forum (or on here...) when it was taken? Or maybe just had to shake hands with someone from Leeds...
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| Quote ="Adeybull" Or maybe just had to shake hands with someone from Leeds...
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In that case he'd be counting his fingers
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| Quote ="AndreaB"In that case he'd be counting his fingers'"
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| thing is, im not too concerned about the bradford city thing. they don't want to share a ground at odsal, but as far as i knew they were never part of the original OSV plan anyway and a lot of the talk of them moving to odsal was to try and light a fire under whoever they're paying rent to for vp and trying to get a better deal out of them
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| Quote ="Bullseye"If that means a new Stadium for us and City in a perfect out of town location with good transport links then all the better.'"
For clubs who draw most of their support from out of town I could see how that would be preferable, but the Bulls are pretty unique in that respect
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| Quote ="Asim"For clubs who draw most of their support from out of town I could see how that would be preferable, but the Bulls are pretty unique in that respect
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A new stadium in Cleckhuddersfax it is then.
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Seems to be moving along as quickly as ever
In the current climate I can't see us attracting much in the way of funding for a new stadium very soon. It'd be interesting to hear the club's take on all this at the fans forum.
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Seems to be moving along as quickly as ever
In the current climate I can't see us attracting much in the way of funding for a new stadium very soon. It'd be interesting to hear the club's take on all this at the fans forum.
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| I still find it hard to believe that people still think that this will ever happen.
Surely the amount of money that has been spent on project committees, steering groups, etc we could of had the thing half built by now if they'd actually just get on with it!
I know funding needs to be in place, but we're not going to get this in the current economic climate. We missed the boat and should have got the thing moving properly at the height of Bull-mania when sponsors were almost falling over themselves to get involved and we had a lot larger fan base to assist in making noises.
I fear we are stuck with our hole in the ground for a lot, lot longer, especially after reading the T&A article earlier.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"thing is, im not too concerned about the bradford city thing. they don't want to share a ground at odsal, but as far as i knew they were never part of the original OSV plan anyway and a lot of the talk of them moving to odsal was to try and light a fire under whoever they're paying rent to for vp and trying to get a better deal out of them'"
Very true, imo. The club who were involved in the original plan are, of course, building a new stadium at Thornbury, and if plans are on course it should be about ready now.
Oh hang on, it`s looking a bit like the superdome project; still a figment of the imagination. I wouldn`t be shocked to see Avenue (with a different chairman, perhaps?) come back into the fold.
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Why do I get a sinking feeling that the Council's long term ambition to get us tucked up with City at VP is just around the corner?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Why do I get a sinking feeling that the Council's long term ambition to get us tucked up with City at VP is just around the corner?'"
Plus ça change...
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| I wouldn't be completely against moving to VP, under the right terms.
TBH, I'm getting fed up of clinging to a sliver of hope.....FFS make the decision; either build it or have the balls to say you're not and we can all start looking to the future!
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I don't think Keighleys ground is fit for purpose either.
Is that something the council should sort out as well?
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I don't think Keighleys ground is fit for purpose either.
Is that something the council should sort out as well?
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| Quote ="aj cougar"I don't think Keighleys ground is fit for purpose either.
Is that something the council should sort out as well?'"
Indeed.
Quite clear that Odsal stadium and Cougar park should be demolished, and replaced with a shared purpose-built stadium. As with all such new stadia, it needs to be built as near as possible to the strategic road network to maximise commercial use and cost-defraying opportunities. The best site in the district meeting that criterion would be at the top of the M606...
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"I wouldn't be completely against moving to VP, under the right terms.
TBH, I'm getting fed up of clinging to a sliver of hope.....FFS make the decision; either build it or have the balls to say you're not and we can all start looking to the future!'"
Same here but those terms are the sticking point. We would need to be equal partners in every respect and we wouldn't be wanting to be lumbered with any costs that might handicap the future of the club, i.e paying some third party for the privilege of being there, unless it's a peppercorn rent.
However while there's a chance of getting the stadium developed as part of the OSV we should be 100% behind it.
Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed.
Quite clear that Odsal stadium and Cougar park should be demolished, and replaced with a shared purpose-built stadium. As with all such new stadia, it needs to be built as near as possible to the strategic road network to maximise commercial use and cost-defraying opportunities. The best site in the district meeting that criterion would be at the top of the M606...'"
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed.
Quite clear that Odsal stadium and Cougar park should be demolished, and replaced with a shared purpose-built stadium. As with all such new stadia, it needs to be built as near as possible to the strategic road network to maximise commercial use and cost-defraying opportunities. The best site in the district meeting that criterion would be at the top of the M606...'"
I look forward to your lobbying letter to the T&A
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| Quote ="aj cougar"I look forward to your lobbying letter to the T&A
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Hey mate, if we COULD get a shared stadium for the two clubs as I envisaged, I would be ecstatic. Suspect the location would not suit the good burghers of Keighley, although on a purely personal basis I would prefer the new shared stadium to be built somewhere off the new road between Keighley and Crossflats - cos that would be much nearer for me...!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"although on a purely personal basis I would prefer the new shared stadium to be built somewhere off the new road between Keighley and Crossflats - cos that would be much nearer for me...!'"
You're not alone there!
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| whats the proplem with bradford fans about maybe moving to valley parade genuine question. i remember going there when you guys was there and seemed good to me alot better then odsal, i know fans would rather have there own stadium ect but for me id rather the club be in a better shape with a nice stadium ect then risk losing a licence. at the moment bradford arnt in trouble about been kicked out of super beacuse bradford are a big club with decent crowds ect but as time goes on and crowds carry on falling ect and other teams get there new stadiums you could risk losing a place in super league. also i heard bradford city was in finacial difficulties so they would welcome the bulls to valley parade.
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| I reckon that if the OSV gets the thumbs down on 16th Feb we'll be moving to Valley Parade.
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| just been looking at pictures of valley parade and looks very good would be one of the best in super league and looks very big whats its capacity? i know the away stand needs redeveloping abit but i think away fans could accept it hhhaaa
i also remeber you having decent crowds there cant remeber but was it something like 11-12k average attendences for the 2 years you were there think it was 2 years anyway. overall if the new stadium dosent happen which in these times at the moment i dont think will happen but valley parade looks a great stadium and should be looked at by the bulls
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