TBH Tomkins could have had a few more tries had he not overplayed so much. One of his c0ck ups led directly to Sammut's try.

The thing that annoyed me most about yesterday has been identified by some other posters. In the first half we were still in it despite losing Gale and a couple of defensive howlers and some schoolboy stuff in failing to find touch twice. However we went in at half time still in with a shout.

We came out for the second half and were pretty abysmal. Whatever fight we showed in the first 40 had completely gone. Why? Just what had been said at half time? It's the sort of thing that used to happen under McNamara and now Potter.

I can accept losing to Wigan at home, especially without our only true playmaker but to concede so many points in 40mins is tantamount to giving up. We could've made it a more lot more difficult for Wigan and would have done with a bit more teamwork, pride and desire. What happened to the team that showed that at Cas? I guess we're just the same as last year where an occasional decent performance is shown amongst a bunch of frustrating and downright awful ones.

One of my gripes from yesterday was our inability to make Wigan bring the ball out from their own line.

We always found a way to give them easy metres, penalty, bad defending etc...

When a bomb goes to the corner and your not able to get there to compete, why take the man out in the air and give away a penalty? just wait until he lands on the ground and flatten him. Then let them work their way off their line. Is it so hard to comprehend??

I think this happened 3 times yesterday!

Ironically your first false dawn last year was against a previously red hot Cas team.

Yep I had realised that. 2012 is looking all too much like 2011 already!

Its a shame to see how much you have indeed fallen and that we can class you in the same group as the likes of Salford were we go into the game thinking weve basically already won. I wish for the days of going to Odsal again to face a big strong powerful Bulls side and expecting one of if not the hardest game of the season.

Regarding the game, I thought Sam, Finch and Tommy ruled it either side of half time and proved a little too much. Could have been more if Sam hadnt of been trying to be that little bit too fancy but rather in games like that than a game against Dire/Saints.

Felt sorry for the Bulls players near to the end, some decent players in there - but something just isnt quite clicking for you guys. Hope you can pull it together sooner rather than later.

Ps. How good was Sams pass for our last try? Wow.

The forward one?

it wasn't anywhere near forward.

Regardless whether it was or not would it of really made a difference lol,

On that note after watching this weeks game it is unbelievable how inconsistent referees are with forward passes i was amazed !!

Looked a mile forward from my seat.

your armchair?

Settee.

Always had a soft spot for Bradford and supported you in many finals, so not taking any pleasure seeing where you are at the moment.

You remind me a lot of Wigan circa 2005 and 2006 (70-0 and 75-0 in 8 days, the flirt with relegation and having too many players who aren't of the quality of a big club), a big fall after being one of the big boys. Sometimes you have to reach rock bottom before you can rise to he top again. You've certainly got the support to rise fast again but what I don't know is are there enough quality youngsters coming through the ranks like you've had in the past?

You missed the bit about both being the RFLs bitches as well.

No, no Tigertot you have it all wrong.

The RFL is our bitch...

Actually, the situations are only superficially similar, seeing as funding for the first team, coaching and facilities was never an issue for Wigan. Bradford don't have the option of buying themselves out of trouble as Wigan did. Wigan's fall from being one of the top clubs only happened for a season (as per Leeds in 1996), whereas Bradford haven't really been contenders for several years.

Isn't that the full text of A Brief History Of The World to date?

Has your bookie retired on his proceeds from the weekend?

It was more than one season. We didn't make the play-offs in 2005 or 2006 and always gave ourselves too much to do pre top 8 play-offs when Noble was in charge to be serious contenders. While Whelan was always ready to dip into his pocket like you say, it was more miss than hit. Since Lenagan came onboard we're being run like a proper business that has to pay it's own way.

But like somebody said on another thread i think,

Its not potters fault with all the errors that are being made on the field and the penalties the players give away which leads to losing field position, you cant blame potter for:- tackling players in the air, holding down, knock ons, forward passes. not finding touch with a penalty or infact when a player gets injured,

Yes potter may of had a game plan but when a PLAYER misses a tackle and other players have to compensate for this it leave gaps ie. Crookes coming accross to stop richards then the ball being passed back over where crookes was no where to be seen,

Personally and this is only my OPINION but wigan made us look that bad cos on the day they really were that good, wigan are a fast team and have learnt how to have a fast play the ball and that is what run us ragged from breaking the line and us having to compensate out of position.

If that makes sense ha

At least Sammut owns up www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ys_Sammut/

At least Sammut owns up www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ys_Sammut/

Strange how the teams with recognised top coaches rarely make those simple errors. Show me a team where players say that & it is usually a team in trouble.

If the players are making mistakes on the field that means mistakes are being made on the coaching ground. If the same mistakes are being made continuously by the same players then THAT is the fault of the coaches because they are not properly addressing the faults and adapting the training to remove those faults from the players game.

However, the fault is not solely at the feet of the coaches. The player must WANT to learn to improve their game. Otherwise it's all just a waste of time and that player is stealing money from the club.

Basic errors like not finding touch on penalties and taking a man out whilst he's in the air should not need that much coaching. It's just the players making 'Schoolboy' mistakes.

Sammut failing to find touch was one of the reasons we conceded in the 1st half. Next set, they went on to score. If we are to get anything out of a game against Wigan, these mistakes should not happen.

I'm not going to be as harsh on Tom B for dropping the ball so close to the line, this also led to a try but i think he knows this is an area that needs improvement.

The thing i would like to see more in our play is forcing repeat sets. The 'Great' bulls side used to do this every game, tiring the opposition and breaking them down by forcing them to defend repeatedly.

For the record, those that seem to be concerned that some fans seem content at losing by such a heavy scoreline, this is simply not the case. For my own thoughts, i'm not concerned as it's only game 3. We have a new back line, and at times we had 2 inexperienced props on the field, with a centre in the second row. I do expect to do better in future games and if we lose, i hope it's by not as much. But the team we fielded on Sunday was still missing players that i expect to make a huge difference (Elima, Manese, A fit Lulia, Purtell)

How many players were under Potter last season? 12? I would guess that is about the average for teams, especially outside the top 4.