Ha. No but I will now. I'm sure you'll agree that we wants the precioussss.

Quote ="DILLIGAF"Is anyone else reading all of nestegg's posts in their head in a Gollum voice?'" Quote ="Pumpetypump"Ha. No but I will now. I'm sure you'll agree that we wants the precioussss.'" lol; Andy Serkis is rumoured to be reviving his Gollum character on stage in an unflattering parody of Margaret Thatcher. (corrected as we were originally informed it was a parody of somebody else - we are not fans of the Game of Thrones series !) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -deal.html Anyhow, back to the real world.

Quote ="DILLIGAF"Is anyone else reading all of nestegg's posts in their head in a Gollum voice?'" Quote ="Pumpetypump"Ha. No but I will now. I'm sure you'll agree that we wants the precioussss.'" lol; Andy Serkis is rumoured to be reviving his Gollum character on stage in an unflattering parody of Margaret Thatcher. (corrected as we were originally informed it was a parody of somebody else - we are not fans of the Game of Thrones series !) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -deal.html Anyhow, back to the real world.

My guess, for what it's worth (which is not a lot..) is that 'we' is just someone who likes a laugh and to be, however temporarily, the centre of attention.

To be logical, why would anyone who was part, even around the edges, of a serious bid to take over the club tie their horses up round here and pitch their wagons in our little corner of the world? This is a club message board and has zippo influence over anything, club related or otherwise. Neither do we, that is 'us' and not to be confused with 'we', actually have a great deal of knowledge of what is going on. Actually, it could be both of us I guess, though we (that is us) do have a very natty jokes thread which I'd recommend that 'we' take a look at as it seems to be drying up a bit.

I'm not sure if I'm 'us' or 'we' now...

I’m not fully convinced that the takeover will actually take place.
Recent history shows that meetings between consortiums attempting to take over the bulls and the RFL don’t go very well to say the least.

This is my worry too. I think there may be many more debts to be revealed. How much has already come out of next year’s central funding? Who else is going to say that they are owed money? I am very suspicious of a due diligence that merely relies on AC’s word.
If this happens, will the consortium put us into administration or pull out?

Chris wouldn't, he doesn't do social media or this forum

from his user name nestegg is shoving it in your faces

I think this last week has confirmed we’re no longer challenging for anything next season, but instead are going to be in a relegation fight. Oh well

That depends on who hangs around, how many gems we can pull out of the academy and who the dual reg partner will be.
If we could keep most of: Pickersgill, Keyes, Lilley, Milnes, Minchella, Doyle as a starting point then a team can be built around them. That might be too optimistic/unrealistic but I genuinely think that we can do as well as this year IF this is sorted quickly.

If winding up petitions are issued then other debtors can join the petition, and any body owed 6 figure sums (the most obvious 6 figure sum I can deduce is £500,000 for Odsal upkeep etc but that would be spread over many businesses) would have jumped to add themselves as petitioners, because the business have to satisfy all the petitioners not just the original.

This situation differs from Green and OK in that Chalmers saw the future and did something about it, put the business up for sale having got rid of the albatross around his neck, that cash black hole called Odsal. and what a experience, the decaying memory of glories tarnished by wage cap overspending and the expulsion of our lads because of the overpayment of that in-decline Leeds player. You can only make decisions about the future not the past glories which Chalmers has done. New buyers aren't out there hanging on every tree in Bradford just waiting for Chalmers to come out the office and call them in. I just despair of the understanding of business by some, in my experience Chalmers has done the seriously dirty work and handed a golden bough to the new owners. ok gold plated bough.

the new owners are buying the club and the contracts of in contract players: there has not been an insolvency event so no points deduction, etc etc. Why would any new owner change a successful strategy of having a core of our lads playing for the club they mostly supported themselves as kids? Subject to this new consortium being what is claimed, we are in a stronger position

Now if Chalmers had decided out, and he is only getting face value for his shares of £100, and he or the person funding him has put at least £679,000 into the business (creditors due over 1 year per last accounts), they might just feel inclined to challenge any amount extra they have to pay out. Wouldn't you? The last accounts were filed 12 October, I would guess that the timing of the new consortium is to ensure going concern status for the filing of the imminently due accounts, and the diligence around the move to Dewsbury was a useful smokescreen for the time needed for the sale.

So there we are, my thoughts based on being a Fellow of the Institute of Management Accountants recently working in retail and therefore using card acquirers (with all due deference to Ewenor, I second your emotion) with an MBA in business strategy, ex Accountant/FD of several £16m businesses during boom and bust (just got out of the last bust one 3 months before the event, stupid directors), the accounts of the Bulls not just current but in the past, the tea leaves left in the recyclable cup (its got Dewsbury printed on it) of the finest brew of the Tea Lady at Odsal may she RIP but be resurrected to the glory of the fans, and the entrails of the Bull mascot slaughtered on the high altar of Odsal (the score board) at midnight on a cup half full moon.

Which, PEST-NEG, I would put up against your any day.

Ah, that was nice, I should do this more often....

COYB!!!

The reserve team has to go need to run a smaller squad and academy. We have been in this position too many times and need some stability. We are no longer seen as a big club and need to cut our cloth according if that means some hard decisions have to be made so be it as long as we have a team to support

Well crafted post. However, you appear to do this excellent forum a disservice Bulliac. It is read by a vast array of RL/ Bulls fans, and guests/related parties. Trust you will all agree that so long as 'we' all deal in the truth and reasonable conduct then all should be fine and dandy. In that regard if anybody for example thinks that any posts by 'us'/'we' are untrue then feel free to inform us on the forum.

It's the former, and that is the god honest truth Bulliac. Why do we bother some may ask .... and so do we on occasions

I thought the new rules meant reserves & academy were now a package deal. If you run a Cat 1 academy, you have run reserves

For gods sake. Stop being an absolute prxxk.
If your in the know then show your cards
If you cant show them then please fxxk off from here, your doing more harm than good. Your causeing hear say and more rumours and if you had the best interests of the club at heart then you wouldnt want that.

Alternatively your just a knxb head of a troll that wants the attention. Im guessing this is you so please fxxk of as well.

Gee, you sure are the personification of your username. But we are fellow Bulls fans and we are not here to fall out with people. Like anybody on the forum, whether new or old, you are entitled to express your opinion. And you have done.

Nestegg your posts and involvement on here make absolutely no sense at all. Are you using this forum to deflect from your own pain and inadequacies or something? Do you want to share your feelings?

Is JK about to jet off to Oz for the 9s with Wales? Whilst part of his international job we could do without that at the moment, surely?

I was just about to say the same thing. My understanding of the 'rules' (although they don't seem to apply to everyone) are that the reserves are mandatory because we get funding for the Academy.

You are correct and im still raging, hower after having time to reflect, the nature of my previous message was overly agressive and for that i appologies.

Like many on hear the last few days have done me in completely. Im sick of being lied to year after year after year. Chalmers can go jump as far as im concerned. Hes not a leader hes a coward who has buried his head in the sand these last couple of months. The sooner hes gone the better.

I do stand by what i said though. You coming on here spouting off does more harm than good. Sadly some will believe everything you post and this is how rumours get started
Can i politely ask, unless you have something factual and evidance to back up your claims can you refrain from stiring the pot and causing unrest amongst a fan base that you claim to be a part of.

Facts are what's needed, debt this, debt that.. 'I've heard this HMRC were in Wibsey'. We are all assuming debt on top of pensions and fines. There's nothing in the Gazette in relation to any WUP, no creditors coming screaming out of the woodwork. Maybe it's time to pause to take a breath.

The facts we have are that the pensions have gone awol, the players found out and though the pensions themselves may not add up to 6 figures the govt will chop down hard and make it so. Even the 'next years funding is gone' has yet to be confirmed.

There is massive outrage about pensions and rightly so, it's a phuqqing disgrace; T&A confirms Spesh Measures since the Dewsbury (August - not May) with AC saying because forecasts are being challenged.

The fact a few visitors have been spreading spades of manure about has clouded what we actually know.

The only issue for me is why someone would want to buy AC's £1m debt without the promise of a return.

I know we are scheduled to play at Dewsbury next year but are the powers that be at Dewsbury involved in this new ownership shake-up in any way.

Is it AC's debt? Genuine question, I don't know if it was him out of his own pocket or if he arranged a 3rd party to cover the debt that was showing in the finances.

I guess that's the bit we'll never know. Maybe that's the 'fraud investigation' mentioned on Twitter that the RFL and Bradford wouldn't not want?

I mean imagine NW, having full and frank discussions with CBMDC on the future of Odsal over the period before Green goofed up, having all information at his fingertips whilst being able to chose the new owner and specify the time line they must commit to, suddenly walking back in just as we leave Odsal and AC is rambling on about new stadiums.

Even if you are not tinfoiled up it would look bloody fishy.... If we are in massive debt where's the WUP and Admin? Why is anyone interested in buying this lame duck?

Aaron Bower reporting that new owners have resolved pensions issue and written to all players.

Here’s hoping that’s accurate. Maybe Roger can confirm in a few days?