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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I really don't see any fitness issue.
If your pack weighs half a tanker less than the opposition, you have to do a ton more tackling.
If you keep on and on giving the opposition the ball, on your own 10, on the zero tackle, you wil not only have to do a shedload more tackling, you'll be doing it repeat set after repeat set.
If you keep conceding stupid penalties, you will yet again be doing extra tackling.
If you can't get a repeat set when attacking, you will have yet more tackling to do.
We did all that, and so it just stands to reason why we ended up running out of steam. We don't need to be fitter. We need to be smarter and rspect possession, so that we don't have to do an extra 50% of the normal workload. That's why we all looked buggered.'"
Absolutely spot on assessment of yesterdays game
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| I got the feeling sometimes it was the first time they had played with each other, Nas trying to offload to Kearney was comical and resulted directly in their try also goes for the knock on which resulted in another try, if you didn't laugh you would cry.
Gaskell was a positive his kicked was much better than Sammut especially for fosters try, gale really needs to stand up he didn't have a terrible game but he is the vice captain and the player FC wants to build a team around he has to show much more for me.
That game was so depressing, looked like half the stadium was collapsing and the amount of crap and rubbish outside the turnstiles and exits was shameful, so goes for the low number of fans, cas where close to outnumbering us at home.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"To me those stats show we missed just over 10% of our tackle attempts.
Nowt changes.
Oh, and Danny Addy is already joint 2nd in Super League for missed tackles with 7! (or 15% of his attempted tackles)'"
Anyone else slightly worried Cummins doesn't seem to be noticing this constant trend of high missed tackle percentage. Last year I remember us having 3 of the top 5 players in missed tackles. It just doesn't seem to concern him as Addy will play the full 80 the next game while our only decent tackler gets substituted.
Just find it incredibly frustrating seeing Donno tackling everything that moves, getting taken off and see Olbison and Addy making pathetic attempts at tackles for 80 minutes. Addy seems to be another one Cummins seems to like and can see no wrong.
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| Only just realised why Ferguson wasn't playing, he's still serving his ban from the world cup.
if I remember correctly, he got a 3 game ban, one was counted in a friendly, so he will not be available on Thursday. Shame
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Only just realised why Ferguson wasn't playing, he's still serving his ban from the world cup.
if I remember correctly, he got a 3 game ban, one was counted in a friendly, so he will not be available on Thursday. Shame'"
He was injured. He received a 2 match ban and missed the Scotland game versus NZ. The other match was taken up using a friendly.
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| your right, 2 match ban. saw that he was out with all the players today, which is a good sign. I was worried he might have been tempted to do a Carvell.
anyone know how long he's out for?
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| He has a chance of being fit for Thursday according to FC. Would be a big boost for our pack to have his aggression there. FC also said that he had held positive discussions with new recruits but was unsure if they'd be completed or eligible to play by Thursday. He was unsure of the rules regarding registration.
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| I was a bit alarmed when they read Addy out in second row and said he was number 12. Thought Ferguson had gone. But it was a mistake.
Is he injured then?
When is Luke George going to get a game? We need his hair. We have gone downhill since losing first Vainikolos hair and then Langleys.
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| I suspect George will have to wait a little longer for his opportunity. I think he is like Purtell who can play centre but is better out on the wing.
Kear had a good game on Sunday and Foster did pretty well too plus his kicking probably makes him more valuable given it could be a tight match on Thursday.
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| I think Purtell would serve us better in the 2nd row. He really doesn't have the pace to play out wide but did show some strong defence on Sunday.
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| I think that'd kill him tbh. He did 8 tackles at the weekend. In a game like that it'd be close to 40 in the second row.
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| Quote ="vbfg"I think that'd kill him tbh. He did 8 tackles at the weekend. In a game like that it'd be close to 40 in the second row.'"
This. If he can defend when he needs to every week, in the centres, like he did then that will be outstanding. For a centre.
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| Honestly thought there were 2 major turning points in the game. At 6-0 up Purtell made that break and Gale kicked it out on the full. If it had gone down the line through hands we would have scored and probably kicked on from there.
The second major turning point was when Castleford decided to introduce Lynch to the pitch. He made 10 plus metres everytime (as did one or two others) but a fit Lynch showed our tired forwards how it should be done. And his offloads were dangerous.
Other than being annoyed at missed tackles I suppose we all expected something like this given the calibre of players that have left and the week building up to the game.
Generally thought we missed Langley today. And also please tell me why the current set of players insist on tackling Justin Carney high instead of low? He's probably the biggest winger in SL in terms of build :/
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| If you go low on Carney he palms you off, and if you go high you bounce of him. He's a tank.
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| Is that the fat one?
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| Quote ="BullCharge"If you go low on Carney he palms you off, and if you go high you bounce of him. He's a tank.'"
Tackle his legs? Or is that too obvious?
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