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| Quote ="Bulliac"We can't afford any more NRL stars due to cap limitations.'"
Which means we're in a perfect position to sign someone like Worrincy
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| i think he is coming because someone from the telegraph and argus has said that he has been in talks with the bulls. but nothing has been announced yet.
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"i think he is coming because someone from the telegraph and argus has said that he has been in talks with the bulls. but nothing has been announced yet.'"
Who? Worrincy?
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls" someone from the telegraph and argus has said that he has been in talks with the bulls'"
Now i know it's official.
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| I know it's a bit out of left field - but I heard a whisper that Karl Pryce might be on the Bulls' new year shopping list. Has anybody heard this, and do you have any views on him?
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| gives us a different option from Kear and Ainscough, and would assist the props with the occasional drive up the middle, tho pay per game might just provide him with the motivation needed. Wasnt he announced as "even better than Leon" at the very start, maybe a bit of stability would help to show that talent. If he has been training with the Bulls Potter will have a good assessment of his attitude. so a one year contract would give him a fair crack.
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| They must have persuaded him to take fair drop in salary to keep the Club under the SC Limit. If that is the case he obviously wants to be back at Odsal and will be motivated to get an extention and a better pay for next season.
If he has come on board I do hope he actually turns up and shows everyone he has the bottle to play the game physically this time round!
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"gives us a different option from Kear and Ainscough, and would assist the props with the occasional drive up the middle, tho pay per game might just provide him with the motivation needed. Wasnt he announced as "even better than Leon" at the very start, maybe a bit of stability would help to show that talent. If he has been training with the Bulls Potter will have a good assessment of his attitude. so a one year contract would give him a fair crack.'"
Regardless of what he might have been announced as, he is nowhere close to Leon's level.
The major concern I'd have would be defence. It was garbage on the edges last year and KP wouldn't do anything to improve that based on the evidence of his performances for Quins last year. That said, with the bit between his teeth and ball in hand, he can be nigh on unstoppable.
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| Quote ="Old hack"Regardless of what he might have been announced as, he is nowhere close to Leon's level.'"
I think people need to stop comparing Karl to Leon. For one, their careers have taken entirely different paths, and they've made their names in RL playing in different positions (even if Karl did play some 6 in academy rugby).
I'm delighted tbh, not just as a fan of Bradford, but for Karl. I know he's stoked to be back at Bradford and I have no doubt he'll be giving it everything in 2012. Will be a very, very shrewd recruit and a great addition to our backline. I see Purtell - Lulia - Karl - Kear as a good backline, and a much improved one.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I think people need to stop comparing Karl to Leon. For one, their careers have taken entirely different paths, and they've made their names in RL playing in different positions (even if Karl did play some 6 in academy rugby).
I'm delighted tbh, not just as a fan of Bradford, but for Karl. I know he's stoked to be back at Bradford and I have no doubt he'll be giving it everything in 2012. Will be a very, very shrewd recruit and a great addition to our backline. I see Purtell - Lulia - Karl - Kear as a good backline, and a much improved one.'"
This. I hope the realisation that this is potentially his last shot at super league puts some fire in his belly. With healthy competition for places in the backs it should encourage these players to play out of their skin, something we didn't see last year when you got in the side not based on merit but rather lack of personnel
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I think people need to stop comparing Karl to Leon. For one, their careers have taken entirely different paths, and they've made their names in RL playing in different positions (even if Karl did play some 6 in academy rugby).
I'm delighted tbh, not just as a fan of Bradford, but for Karl. I know he's stoked to be back at Bradford and I have no doubt he'll be giving it everything in 2012. Will be a very, very shrewd recruit and a great addition to our backline. I see Purtell - Lulia - Karl - Kear as a good backline, and a much improved one.'"
You're right. There's absolutely no value in comparing the two of them. Same surname, different characters, different skillsets, different positions, different players.
I'm happy for Karl if he's ready to take the opportunity but I'm not quite as excited about the signing as you are. I still remember the play at Quins last year where his dreadful pass led to Whitehead's breakaway try and effectively killed off the game.
I know that's an isolated example but too often his play has been dotted with moments of sloppiness. I hope to be proved wrong.
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| Quote ="JBT1991"This. I hope the realisation that this is potentially his last shot at super league puts some fire in his belly. With healthy competition for places in the backs it should encourage these players to play out of their skin, something we didn't see last year when you got in the side not based on merit but rather lack of personnel'"
Problem is, I remember the exact same things being said at the start of last season. 'Players with a point to prove', 'increased squad depth and competition' etc... Could pluck the relevant pieces from the T&A's pre-season stuff.
Sorry to be so cynical but I see nothing yet to suggest there will be a vast improvement on the pitch this season. Potter needs to get more out of the players and the players have to be more committed to learning and adhering to the necessary gameplans and structures.
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| Pryce always has his critics, and rightly so, but i'd be more than happy to have him our team. His job is to score tries and that is what he does. It's a shame really because he could have been Englands very own Greg Inglis.
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| I would take him on a reduced salary as a back up winger, that is all. If Kear and Ainscough are both fit then Karl should be nowhere near the starting side - suggesting we play him as a centre is insanity.
You can be full of as much optimism as you like, but we've seen Karl at three different SL sides now and his attitude has always been the same, don't kid yourself into thinking he will be any different this time around.
It's frustrating because going forward he is, and has always been, quite a prolific scorer. But his defence and overall work rate just isn't good enough for any side with playoff aspirations.
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| His defence is just like most other wingers in SL is, mediocre. However, he's got height and weight on his side which make him a more formidable opponent than Ainscough. Besides, he's twice the player Ainscough will ever be, even at half heart.
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| Ainscough is a very good player. Last year he was unlucky with injury but when he was fit he was one of the best players we had. Trouble is we didnt use him enough and never got the ball out wide.
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| He isn't a very good player and never will be. He's your average SL winger, to small and lightweight, terrible in the air and the only things he's got going for him is a bit of speed and a decent work rate. IMO of course.
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| On a good day Karl Pryce is a real asset - the problem was he only had a couple of good days for us last season. Very frustrating as he has so many attributes (physique, speed) that could make him a great player.
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| Quote ="Old hack"Regardless of what he might have been announced as, he is nowhere close to Leon's level.
The major concern I'd have would be defence. It was garbage on the edges last year and KP wouldn't do anything to improve that based on the evidence of his performances for Quins last year. That said, with the bit between his teeth and ball in hand, he can be nigh on unstoppable.'" .
Even if he never fulfilled that potential at 18 that led to such a comment, he still has ability. But with KP and Ainscough surely its not either or, B4C, ideally you want to be able to choose from a big one or a fast one, but even more important is the ball getting to them!
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| Pryce is big and fast though, best of both really.
If we do sign him, I can't see Ainscough getting much game time to be honest.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"He isn't a very good player and never will be. He's your average SL winger, to small and lightweight, terrible in the air and the only things he's got going for him is a bit of speed and a decent work rate. IMO of course.'"
I think your assessment's maybe slightly harsh but I do agree that the majority of Bulls fans appeared to overrate Ainscough last year.
In such a bad year, a lot of people appreciated his impressive workrate but then proceeded to confuse that workrate and commitment with playing ability.
Ainscough's a competent winger and a good option to have in the squad but I do agree with B4C that he's probably middle of the pack in terms of SL wingers.
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| which would you rather be at work with? somone who has ability but rarely uses it or somone with less ability but always willing to put a competent and hard working effort in? know which I prefer.
Ainscough was slated before pulling on a shirt for being too small and not being any good under the high ball, think he dropped two bombs all year (doubt there was a winger in super league who did not drop one.), he has pace, footwork, and great upper body strength something that is often underated. give him ball and he will also score same as Karl but would Karl have scored for fun outside nero (when he starved reardon) our biggest problem in attack last year was getting real quality ball out to our wingers -ainy still got 7 tries in 11. looking at stats karl only made one try assist playing most of the season at centre and 4 offloads for a big physical guy of his presence is alarming to me.
It is easy to say big wingers are better than small ones but how many of us would have taken jason robinson above jon scales? charnley,dallas, carney, donald, albert, sullivan, blacklock,foster, bai were not the biggest wingers but managed we have an obcession because we were very fortunate to have some great big wingers but why do we (some fans) keep searching for next big les or tv?
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| Quote ="JBT1991"This. I hope the realisation that this is potentially his last shot at super league puts some fire in his belly.'"
People said that when he went to Quins. He was garbage.
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| really dont see why some people are so keen to see pryce at . we've got lulia,purtell and walker who IMO are ahead of him in pecking order for and then possibly crookes, sammut and whitehead who could come into reckoning. Logical playce for pryce for me is competition on the wing. Offers us something a little different to ainscough depending on opposition. After kear and ainscough we're looking at potentially moving purtell from or bringing crookes in. That seems weaker area of squad to me and also a better match to karls skill set.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:48 am
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Thierry Henry is training with Arsenal, doesn't mean he'll be turning out for the Gunners in their next match.'"
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:48 am"
[size=150It does mean he'll be turning out for the Gunners pretty soon though
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See folks, it ain't what you know, it's who you know . . .
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