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| Quote ="Bulliac"Wasn't there another NRL club in for Orford? Maybe this is muddying the waters a bit. Personally I'd prefer it was cleared up, get the lying toerag off our books then we can sort out our own roster for next year.'"
Parramatta are in for him.
Some of the latest blog rumour stuff; nothing more than we're guessing at;
[url=http://www.1eyedeel.com/forum/topics/a-orford-update?commentId=500401%3AComment%3A225426&xg_source=activityParra blog[/url
[i"As for which club he will sign who knows its between the Parramatta Eels, Canberra Raiders and the Melbourne Rebels are there abouts."[/i
This needs sorting, but what happens if any clubs in for him walk away from any deals?
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| If clubs do walk aaway are we in a lot of trouble
Unlikely but what if Orford thinks 'no one will sign me now, too late in pre-season prep and i am too old to sit it out for two years. I will have to return to Bradford and make the best of it'
As he has a 2 year deal left in his pocket and we have signed Herbert what the hell happens then?
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"As he has a 2 year deal left in his pocket and we have signed Herbert what the hell happens then?'"
we get rid of glenn hall, accept him as a quality player but loathe him for being a tw*t
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"If clubs do walk aaway are we in a lot of trouble
Unlikely but what if Orford thinks 'no one will sign me now, too late in pre-season prep and i am too old to sit it out for two years. I will have to return to Bradford and make the best of it'
As he has a 2 year deal left in his pocket and we have signed Herbert what the hell happens then?'"
I'd imagine that as he's requested a release (which to my mind is the same as tendering his resignation) worst case would be we would just grant his requested release without getting any compo, but leaving Orford without a club to go to and hence no wage coming in. Its not in his interests to allow it to get to that stage and quite frankly he lost the option of the final 2 years off his contract the instant he formally requested a release. If for some legal reason we cant do that then we could just not register him as a player and a very highly paid toilet cleaner until he got pee'd off and quit.
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| Quote ="BullsForLife"we get rid of glenn hall, accept him as a quality player but loathe him for being a lover'"
I'd take glenn hall over orford despite poor season he had last year and relative difference in their quality for one simple reason. Hall wants to play for us and Orford clearly doesnt.
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"If clubs do walk aaway are we in a lot of trouble
Unlikely but what if Orford thinks 'no one will sign me now, too late in pre-season prep and i am too old to sit it out for two years. I will have to return to Bradford and make the best of it'
As he has a 2 year deal left in his pocket and we have signed Herbert what the hell happens then?'"
As I've said, we won't be in trouble because Orford's asked for a release from his contract. We can grant that but hold his registration until we receive compensation as part of the settlement.
Therefore he's off our books, we've no trouble with the salary cap or quota and the only people who it negatively impacts is Orford and his money grubbing agent.
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| All the departing players except Orford have been taken off the squad page, probably only because he's not definitely gone yet, but my opinion differs to Mats, I'd take Orford back. I think he's scum, but he'd offer us far more than Glenn Hall.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"All the departing players except Orford have been taken off the squad page, probably only because he's not definitely gone yet, but my opinion differs to Mats, I'd take Orford back. I think he's scum, but he'd offer us far more than Glenn Hall.'"
Undoubtedly a fit and commited Orford would offer more. But I dont think thats the player we'd get. We'd get a guy who didnt want to be here and was just going through the motions to ensure he kept getting a very generous wage.
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| Quote ="mat"Undoubtedly a fit and commited Orford would offer more. But I dont think thats the player we'd get. We'd get a guy who didnt want to be here and was just going through the motions to ensure he kept getting a very generous wage.'"
I'm with you on this. I have no desire for Matt Orford to be anywhere near our club after what has gone on. I don't give a toss how good a player he can be.
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| I'm bored of reading about Matt Orford, from when the rumours started we've had nearly 5 months or so of this now.
Surely to god the conclusion must now be in sight??
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm bored of reading about Matt Orford, from when the rumours started we've had nearly 5 months or so of this now.
Surely to god the conclusion must now be in sight??'"
few posters on Canberra message boards seem to think it might be resolved this week so we live in hope.
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| When Orford finally pegs it and goes to meet his maker...and promptly gets booted downstairs for being a liar and an all-round total and complete wakner, he gets told that you end up being submerged in poo to a level equivalent to your crimes whilst you were alive.
Orford fears the worst, obviously, but is pleasantly surprised to find he is only stood in poo up to his waist.
And its then that he finds he is standing on George Mimis' shoulders...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"When Orford finally pegs it and goes to meet his maker...and promptly gets booted downstairs for being a liar and an all-round total and complete wakner, he gets told that you end up being submerged in poo to a level equivalent to your crimes whilst you were alive.
Orford fears the worst, obviously, but is pleasantly surprised to find he is only stood in poo up to his waist.
And its then that he finds he is standing on George Mimis' shoulders...'"
That is poetic!!
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| There WILL be at least one new half.. maybe two.
I'm not going to name names, as it's quite sensitive and this could affect the signings etc but we'll definitely have another half on the way
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| Is it likely to be a 6 or a 7? or are we likely to get a former full back who has done a good job in the halves?
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| Thanks guys, i'm sure we will be paying the fee, i hope we pay it, it doesn't count under the salary cap, we are very keen to get him here because we need an experienced half, our 5/8 Terry Campese done his knee in the finals and will be out till mid next year,
There was a rumor this week that Bradford and Orford had come to terms with us at Canberra and there is going to be an announcement early next week, but who knows anymore, its dragging on to long.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"There WILL be at least one new half.. maybe two.
I'm not going to name names, as it's quite sensitive and this could affect the signings etc but we'll definitely have another half on the way
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Thankyou Paul, i have trust in your sources over many people on here and that has cheered me up on what has been a dry spell for 'Rumours'
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| Quote ="Paul124897"There WILL be at least one new half.. maybe two.
I'm not going to name names, as it's quite sensitive and this could affect the signings etc but we'll definitely have another half on the way
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thats good enough for me. I'll take one of pauls 'rumours' over any of the self proclaimed experts on here any day of the week.
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| Reading between the lines (and using a fair amount of imagination and guesswork) Paul's suggestion looks to me like some form of player exchange - that being much more sensitive than 'just' a player coming in.
I'm going for that seemingly mental Chase/Hall/Godwin/Olbison rumour being bang on the money. And on that basis, I'm off to start drinking.
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| Cant see godwin going anywhere, potter was talking about what he expects of him next year.. altho id love to be proven wrong
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| Quote ="king karl"Cant see godwin going anywhere, potter was talking about what he expects of him next year.. altho id love to be proven wrong'"
maybe godwin on loan though? he isnt going to get in team ahead of l'estrange and diskin if both fit. so maybe a loan deal until l'estrange leaves at end of year ( and that assumes l'estrange doesnt sign an extension and godwin does).
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| Put yourself in cas's shoes
would you take 2 average loan players and a quota player who couldnt even get into a 10th placed team... in exchange for your star halfback
didnt think so
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| Quote ="king karl"Put yourself in cas's shoes
would you take 2 average loan players and a quota player who couldnt even get into a 10th placed team... in exchange for your star halfback
didnt think so
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I think it would probably depend on where the balance of your squad needed strengthening.
It would probably also depend on what else you could get for your star halfback.
And on what your star halfback wanted. If you were Chase would you want to stay at a club that had just lost its 2 brightest young talents and had recruited pretty much nothing comparable in return?
I don't know the answers to any of these but they are all considerations for all parties involved.
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| Don't forget any compensation we might get for the poisoned dwarf. 2 players plus cash might make it possible.
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