thats one off reasons why I think whoever in shop said about october made a mistake. late november/early december is more usual for 1st shirt. They do want to get at least one of them released in time for xmas though as they should sell a significant amount more than usual this year due to people returning who havent been for a few years and new supporters attracted by the pledge deal.

I made a post about this some time back, unfortunately jct didnt find the sponsorship worth it anymore with us slipping to 2 years without play-offs , but like previously said above they are still sponsoring us just on a much smaller scale

If the new sponsor is who I was told it is then do you think they'll do a deal with the supporters to offer us their products cheap??????

What sponsor is that ?

Ziggy's all night kebab van of Shipley.

I liked this year's although it was playing it safe. I thing they should try something really out there.

Anyone know when it'll be on sale?

people have asked in shop and shop staff are saying end of november apparently.

so first week in JAn then!!!!

It's all fair and well suggesting Kooga "know the market" and what is likely to sell, but it's very clear that they don't in our clubs instance.

Stock has forever been an issue, or therein lack of. So said knowledge means jack if there are simply non on the hangers to purchase. Similarly, lets be clear, the design this year was e.

Kooga need to stop blowing sugar up their own arris, design a kit the fans want and would buy and ensure it is available in stock. Never mind all this boll0x about awaiting supply from the far east. Not interested in third party agreements, just the one you signed to.

Whilst I agree to an extent, when you consider the fact that stock is an issue because the club keep selling out of the shirts, it rather contradicts your point that Kooga don't know what sells.

The club has to strike a balance between a minimum order and how many they think they'll sell. Can anyone in the know on here clarify that when the club ran out of home/away shirts this year, they had to order the minimum amount in again which they were weary to do as they wouldn't think they'd sell out again. I would presume that the buck stops with the club in this sense when estimating how many shirts they would sell over the course of the season. I'd suspect this year the demand will be the highest for a few seasons - especially if the design isn't half bad

If Kooga have a good comprehension of what they do, they will know the numbers that will sell given an average crowd base. Evidently they don't.

Is their turnaround time that poor that they can't react to an increase in supply, unexpected or otherwise?

The feedback on this forum alone suggests a more popular design would sell than their previous attempts.

Perhaps the club should utilise their assets more and a little grey matter. Once new stock is in, cheap or free names and numbers on shirts along with the whole first team squad on hand to sign said new shirts. Similarly on a match day, non selected/injured players on hand in the shop to sign shirts (upon gates opening for a 1 hour period thus fans arriving earlier and increasing tertiary spend), chat to fans in shop blah blah blah. Not rocket science is it or difficult to organise.

You miss the point - barring the minimum order I'd imagine Kooga don't force the Bulls to order a specific amount of shirts - surely it's for the club to decide how many they'll sell because it's the club that has to stock them not Kooga?

Not as simplistic as that. Turn around time is a large part of it on re orders.

Moreover, a sellable kit would alleviate the speed bumps on the initial first up order and a larger buy in. The timescales on subsequent stock replenishment may still remain a problem as it has been this year. Difficult to place a minimum order when the numbers on a not particularly attractive kit aren't there however as was the case this term.

Keep polishing that turd kooga.

But your entire point about the kit being "sellable" is contradicted by the fact that it sold out - (which brings us back to where I came in..!) so it seems that at some level Kooga do know what they are doing. What relevance is turnaround time on re-orders when making the first order of the kit, which is the point I'm making. The Bulls underestimated initial demand for the kit for whatever reason and the time it took to get it back in stock was almost entirely the fault of Kooga. But as for not ordering enough in the first place I don't see how there isn't a bit of blame on both parts.

As an aside - how do you know "numbers weren't there" for last years kit- what exactly do you mean? Is this guesswork on your part or something more official? I agree with you that this years kit was dreadful for the record.

tbh if its the one posted earlier in this thread then its quite a nice shirt. Personally I'd buy it but I still hope they go for a more traditional design this year.

I refer to the orders post initial sell out, which are always likely to do so since fans are incredibly loyal and the club will always sell a specific amount whatever it looks like. That isn't the point, it's the subsequent sales that are significant for clubs locally and on a wider scale. How many did South sell around 15 years ago when every man, his dog and meerkat had one. Similarly with Quins.

Simply ask a senior official at the club or Andrea in the shop. The point will become clearer.

Most of Kooga's kits are gash. The Wallabies new kit a prime example.

Those were just links to someones own mockups. Apparently the chap with the sneak peak says its based on this years kit which I consider dire.

Seconded

I wasnt referring to those. I meant the one the club used in the trade advert for the shirt sponsorship.

Where is this posted Mat?

forgot we're on the 2nd 2011 kit thread. was posted on the first one and its on the club website somewhere.

hang on a sec and I'll find a link

This is one I was referring to. about halfway down page.

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Good man. I'll merge these pesky critters.

Yeah that's not SO bad. Its good enough to have me pondering on whether to get one anyway.