I'll go for b.

Final answer.

In light of the recent past, I can see no way the club hasn't covered all bases here before announcing his signing AND letting Deacs go.

It's Deja vu with Greg Bird all over again........

it's also very strange that the story is only being covered by the aussie press. there's no links to english news sources in any of this.

tbh, it sounds like we've kinda screwed Walker over by dangling the carrot of a fat contract over him and then yanking it away. but i'd still feel better to hear it from the club that there's no contract and we're not going to miss out on Orford

Surely if Walker had a contract signed by both him and the Bull's his agent would have said so. Nothing like that has been mentioned so breach of contract would appear to be out.
Going back on what the Bull's said to Walkers agent doesn't seem to be a legal issue even if it a bit poor form. It's left Walker in a poor situation, especially as he's turned down other offers, and he's understandably looking for a way out. Some sympathy for him but I can't see how he can take legal action to force the Bull's to sign a contract they don't want to.

Don't know about the content of your post matey

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Sorry Roofy ... what was your pont ??

as I said yesterday, when the comments from walkers manager first appeared in oz press, I suspected walker was setting up to do us for breach of contract. A lot will depend on whether a contract was signed or not and by both parties or just one. Would be an absolute disaster PR wise for club if orford didnt come and cant see walker ever playing in a bulls shirt so I suspect worse case would be a settlement with walker ( say one years wages at rate we offered him or us topping up whatever he gets from crusaders to the same level). If we havent signed our side of the contract then I'd suggest he hasnt got a leg to stand on. Really we can only speculate until we see clubs side of story.

absolute worst case we end up with a player who would be massively unpopular, and having already released deacon were forced to buy brough from wakefield. having shown how much we were prepared to pay orford wakey will hold us to ransom. slight worry is that RFL might prefer this course of action as it would get wakefield out of their financial difficulties and avoid another PR mess.

Now on Sporting Life, and once again Bulls refuse to comment! www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... dford.html

Now on Sporting Life, and once again Bulls refuse to comment! www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... dford.html

why are they specifically seeking to block Orford's signing? If they have a contract and want Walker to come to Bradford why don't they just insist we honour the contract and sort out the details ourselves? Is this bloke trying to bag Orford on behalf of another club and hoping to use a half baked never-was contract to pursuade the rfl to refuse his bulls contract? If walker had a contract since august them wouldn't he have applied for his visa at the same time as the other aussies and by now be in the advanced stages of moving to the UK? Just a thought

the orginal reports in oz press yesterday said walker was expecting a visa in next week or two which would tie up with timescales of l'estrange and kearney tbf.

Accepting we don't have the full facts at present, but also knowing our past history with contracts - therefore hoping we could not screw things up again, also having read FA's thoughts "reading between the lines", I think the likelihood is that we will end up legally in the clear but morally we will look a bit dirtied by this episode

[urlhttp://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/11/19/159941_sport.html[/url

This article contains a few more quotes from Walker's agent about what their intentions are.




The last paragraph strikes an accord with what Highlander has just said about how legally we may end up in the clear but morally we will look a bit poor.

Just typical to be us isn't it, would never happen to your Leeds/Saints/Hull

We've been stiffed by player agents plenty of times in the past when we've had similar understandings with players and found they've gone elsewhere. I remember plenty of hot air but nothing came of it. I suspect the boot's on the other foot this time, at least I hope so.

Either way it's a crap situation and has really taken the shine off the Orford signing. If it's going legal it'll drag itself out and does that mean the RFL refuse to accept Orford's registration until its sorted?

Walker's agent is making a lot of noise but I really wonder whether it's all hot air.

Crocker !

That was a refused visa, and is in no way similar to this situation.

What are our legal posters thoughts about a 'verbal contract'?

The RFL will not want to get involved. At all. In any way. They have a long and not-so-proud history of bottling it in situations similar to this, as Hull fans well know.

I confidently predict that they will accept whatever contract you present them with (presumably Orford's) and then announce that any dispute between Bradford and Walker is a private matter and nothing to do with them.

Quite rightly (assuming that the Bulls did not register Walker's contract with them)

I can't see -as long as there is no written contract signed by us- how Walker can try to block Orford's move, but I really hope that just in case, the club have a backup plan.

"Both verbal contracts and written contracts are equally legally binding contracts, subject to the existence of the usual requirements for formation of a contract."

from [urlhttp://www.gillhams.com/articles/325.cfm[/url

Did you watch most of the NRL last year? Do you have any idea what he is capable of? Well I have seen a lot of him, and therefore do, and he is a fantastic attacking weapon, and I was impressed when he made the switch to centre.

While I have only seen one season of Nero, he strikes me as solid, if unspectacular....and Walker has done more in the NRL (a superior competition) than Nero I would suggest by all accounts it's a valid suggestion, if not a highly hypothetical one.

How can Walker prove we have a "verbal contract" ?

Plus, how can you single out Orford, why not any of the other Quota players?


Plus, i'm sure he wouldn't want to sign for us now anyway, because pretty much every fan would hate him if we couldn't get ORFORD.