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| This thread was started because of someone's preferences of players, whether that is biased or not is another matter. We are just an average side with average players, but can I remind you of this.......
5 Wakefield 8 5 0 3 194 145 10
10 Bradford 7 2 1 4 125 167 5
With that, I think some of you need to reserve judgement of the calibre of our players.
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| Quote ="vastman"And that attitude basically shows why you are now an also ran - pride before a fall.
You need to be superior to have a superiority complex.'"
I know exactly what level we are at thank you.
However, i am confident we will be challenging again in the future - success cannot be sustained for such a long amount of time.
I also know you will not be and hopefully not given franchise - I am 99% confident we will be.
I have no problem with any SL club, good friends at most but Wakefield fans all seem to have a chip on their shoulder.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"This thread was started because of someone's preferences of players, whether that is biased or not is another matter. We are just an average side with average players, but can I remind you of this.......
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10 Bradford 7 2 1 4 125 167 5
With that, I think some of you need to reserve judgement of the calibre of our players.'"
Wow after how many rounds? Think its a bit early to be getting all exited, it will be interesting if you can sustain this level for the whole season.
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| Quote ="Jimmybull"Wow after how many rounds? Think its a bit early to be getting all exited, it will be interesting if you can sustain this level for the whole season.'"
I think its pretty clear to see thats after 7/8 games, its in black and white.
Can you not understand or appreciate that you are not the force you once were, and that you have an average squad now? It will be interesting to see whether we sustain it for the remainder of the season, i agree....but I think 8th is realistic, even with our average squad I think you need to understand that our team has probably got the best ethic in years, and despite what you think, it counts for something. Im not excited, im pretty realistic, it seems to be you who is getting excited after winning on Friday, perhaps that means your world beaters?
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| Quote ="Jimmybull"I know exactly what level we are at thank you.
However, i am confident we will be challenging again in the future - success cannot be sustained for such a long amount of time.
I also know you will not be and hopefully not given franchise - I am 99% confident we will be.
I have no problem with any SL club, good friends at most but Wakefield fans all seem to have a chip on their shoulder.'"
3 Q's.
1) How do YOU know? and then backtrack and say ( Quote) "and hopefully not"(End quote).
2) Do you want a 4/5 team league then, i.e. Wigan, FC, Huddersfield, Leeds, Les Cats. And then them with inferior facilities, i.e Wakefield, Saints and Bradford, languishing in some comp that even the local press have little interest in. Bearing in mind most of the clubs I mention do not even own their own ground.
3) Your confidence springs from where exactly?
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| Quote ="Jimmybull"Wow after how many rounds? Think its a bit early to be getting all exited, it will be interesting if you can sustain this level for the whole season.'"
it will be funnier for you to maintain this form , i would buy into the "We are only so many games in" argument but so many of you wanted McBanana sacking last week so it must matter at this stage .
BTW happy easter
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| Quote ="Jimmybull"I know exactly what level we are at thank you.
=darkredGo on then call it
However, i am confident we will be challenging again in the future - success cannot be sustained for such a long amount of time.
=redespecially when the rest are getting better
I also know you will not be and hopefully not given franchise - I am 99% confident we will be.
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you know we wont yet you hope we wont be given a franchise and your not totally sure Bradford will get one . you have confused me so you must have a fing migraine by now
I have no problem with any SL club, good friends at most but Wakefield fans all seem to have a chip on their shoulder.
=redi just hope you don't consider yourself an ambassador of the bulls icon_rolleyes.gif
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"I think its pretty clear to see thats after 7/8 games, its in black and white.
Can you not understand or appreciate that you are not the force you once were, and that you have an average squad now? It will be interesting to see whether we sustain it for the remainder of the season, i agree....but I think 8th is realistic, even with our average squad
I think you need to understand that our team has probably got the best ethic in years, and despite what you think, it counts for something. Im not excited, im pretty realistic, it seems to be you who is getting excited after winning on Friday, perhaps that means your world beaters?'"
We just beat the back to back champions, something you have already failed to do this season. Yes, we have had our worst start in SL, but we are improving. We had a bad start in 2005 and people were writing us off, but we finished 3rd & won the GF. Stop getting carried away, you're yet to win anything in the SL era.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"We just beat the back to back champions, something you have already failed to do this season. Yes, we have had our worst start in SL, but we are improving. We had a bad start in 2005 and people were writing us off, but we finished 3rd & won the GF. Stop getting carried away, you're yet to win anything in the SL era.'"
yes and we beat Catalans and cas and we are still in the cup .
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| Quote ="mutley cat"yes and we beat Catalans and cas and we are still in the cup .'"
Come and say all this when you have some real success in the SL era.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"We just beat the back to back champions, something you have already failed to do this season. Yes, we have had our worst start in SL, but we are improving. We had a bad start in 2005 and people were writing us off, but we finished 3rd & won the GF. Stop getting carried away, you're yet to win anything in the SL era.'"
Read his post again, or at all if you haven't bothered.
He says he is not getting excited.
Yes you have beaten Leeds, and well done to you.
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| Quote ="Pilchard"
Yes you have beaten Leeds, and well done to you.
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Thanks fella. Just we've ahd a bad start to the season really doesn't mean you're going to get an easy match. I'm tipping us to win, but still won't be shocked if we lose.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"We just beat the back to back champions, something you have already failed to do this season. Yes, we have had our worst start in SL, but we are improving. We had a bad start in 2005 and people were writing us off, but we finished 3rd & won the GF. Stop getting carried away, you're yet to win anything in the SL era.'"
You really are making an of yourself, you need to learn how to read and take comments in. You seem to have this pre-built trait of thinking attack is the best form of defence, in your case its not working. I am not getting excited, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. Some of your fan's started slagging off player comparisons and because I stated that we are currently significantly higher which suggests we are a better team than we get credit for, you have become defensive and are firing a load of tosh to be honest.
I have decided because of this tripe that I will not be sucked into adding anymore to this thread. I guess we'l see what is going to happen tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Easy Fool, because he simply is, more pace, more skill, better defender you name it Menzies is better except kicking. Menzies has played a shed load of games at centre in the NRL, it wouldn't surprise me if it was rolling upto 100 games in that position. Stop banging on about some average joe like he's a bloomin world beater, he's a bog standard tryer, allways has been and always will be.. Steve Menzies = Better centre than Tony Martin even though he's a second row forward. End of Story.
Really, what reason have you got for thinking Ben Jeffries and David Solomona are our best? Anyone of us will tell you that's not the case.
You spout bovine faeces, little man.'"
As I thought - thick as two short planks - a real keyboard warrior. When has anyone ever said Martin is a better player than Menzies you oaf - however Martin is a better centre because stunningly that is his position, what part of this don't you understand. Menzies has always been a S/R occasionally a lock - 100+ games as a centre, give your silly head a shake. Menzies has played 250 games for the Sea Eagles, are you really suugesting a hundred of those OVER A THIRD of his career total were at centre. His actual stats suggest he has played the vast majority at S/R, occasionally as a centre and a S/O when coming off the bench as a utility player late in his career.
So Ben Jeffries and top try scorer Tadulala aren't your better players, beggars belief that you haven't won the title already if there not. Honest to god your the dumbest poster ever.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"
I have decided because of this tripe that I will not be sucked into adding anymore to this thread. '"
Quote ="kingsway cat"Go steady on him Vasty..you will hurt his feelings!!'"
Oh the irony
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| Quote ="Visage"Oh the irony
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Can't help myself.'"
Of course and the place would be a much quieter and dull one if we didn't all enjoy the banter that goes on
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| Quote ="Visage"Of course and the place would be a much quieter and dull one if we didn't all enjoy the banter that goes on
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Nowt wrong with a bit of banter, but it seems some are a bit above that and think they are special.
Maybe we all should wait untill the final whistle before blowing off
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Come and say all this when you have some real success in the SL era.'"
we don't need to win anything , you said you beat Leeds i pointed out we beat Catalans and cas . your beginning to sound like a wigan fan pointing out yesteryear successes . I hope you enjoy a entertaining game of rugby on Monday and obviously i hope Wakefield win but whatever the outcome i know that one game will not define a season .
now then jog on cos my dads 7 foot tall
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| Rhinos fan in peace.
On Saturday I spoke to a certain academy full back who was told that he was 50/50 to get a run out on Monday.
Why does Steve Mac continue to play Platt? He had a good start to his first season for you lot but he has been nothing but a liability since. You have an amazing prospect dicking around in the reserves, such a waste.
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| Quote ="vastman"As I thought - thick as two short planks - a real keyboard warrior. When has anyone ever said Martin is a better player than Menzies you oaf - however Martin is a better centre because stunningly that is his position, what part of this don't you understand. Menzies has always been a S/R occasionally a lock - 100+ games as a centre, give your silly head a shake. Menzies has played 250 games for the Sea Eagles, are you really suugesting a hundred of those OVER A THIRD of his career total were at centre.
His actual stats suggest he has played the vast majority at S/R, occasionally as a centre and a S/O when coming off the bench as a utility player late in his career.
So Ben Jeffries and top try scorer Tadulala aren't your better players, beggars belief that you haven't won the title already if there not. Honest to god your the dumbest poster ever.'"
What is a keyboard warrior, little man? I said he's a better player, I also said he's a better centre - which he is, no doubt about it. I never said he'd played 100+ games, I said he has probably played rolling uptp 100, wether than be 80 - 90 whatever, he's started a whole lot of games in that position for them. 250 games for Manly - what a daft little man you are, he's played well over 350, never mind 250. No Ben Jeffries isn't one of our better players, everybody here will till you he's been terribly inconsistent and far from one of our better players, Semi yes I dont deny that, that's why I didn't mention him and instead mentioned Sol, who youve now changed to Semi.
Come on little man, if youre gonna say I said something, dont change things around to suit your argument, quote what I said. Reasoned debate and all that lark eh? More like fix things up so I've got a leg to stand on.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Rhinos fan in peace.
On Saturday I spoke to a certain academy full back who was told that he was 50/50 to get a run out on Monday.
Why does Steve Mac continue to play Platt? He had a good start to his first season for you lot but he has been nothing but a liability since. You have an amazing prospect dicking around in the reserves, such a waste.'"
Doesnt matter what macca told hyde it wont happen, yes hyde is better than platt, but at academy level, crossley has been told 3 times he will be in 19 man squad, but hasnt, hes good at telling players one thing, then not doing owt about it, dont think hyde is ready yet..maybe give him agme against celtic/salford etc, or maybe further down track if we dont make play offs when no pressure on him..at mo we need to get some confidence and consistency then maybe it will rub off.
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| I'd love to see Kieran Hyde get a run out, but not at the expense of two players that played well on Friday evening. Dave Halley and Rick Sheiffe deserve to retain their places in the starting line up. If Macca wants to put the youngster on the bench in place of Platt then I would have no objections to that.
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| I fair bet Halley will get a brilliant reception before the whistle, then I'm afraid it will be gloves off, its been noted how light he is and can be forced back in the full back position and we know how nimble and quick he is
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