Not really ... But we could be only a few losses away from the 'leaves'

Would love to know how we scored our 2 tries. We didn't look like scoring with one out rugby all game.

Gale class? Really? Could have sworn we were getting tonked this season with him in side. I haven't seen him do anything classy this season.

He's certainly better than Addy. Can Brook do any worse? He's been doing great in academy. Being able to pass would make him a better option than Addy. Cummins doesn't seem to want to give young players ago, hence him constantly putting wingers on bench and bringing our young SR on with 3 mins left.

You've said that twice now, but I think you'll find that Mellor did a stint (albeit a brief one) in the 1st half.

The subs were obviously a case 'whoever is vaguely fit goes on the bench' - neither Walker or George were fit to be there by all accounts, I assume they were 'fitter' than Manu though.

None of that excuses the poor line speed, slack defence or clueless attacking with ball in hand - but we are clearly down to the barest of bare bones.

And still we hear nothing from Marc Green. Presumably he is hoping we will be give 20 points from the appeal.

You looked a tired team to me. You looked knackered after we scored our second try.

In oxymoron terms.... the silence is deafening!

Think I will have to follow Mr Green's precedence and say I am unable to attend games that take place on a Saturday,Sunday and Friday,

We looked knackered before the game started to be fair.

Well, we did, O'Brien was desperately unlucky to be denied. You must have not been watching it.


Well, he has. You must not have been watching the Warrington game.


I think that's a tad unfair, you need to look after young players, if they're not ready, then they're not ready. Addy has had some decent games, just Saints wasn't one of 'em.

Walker on crutches in coral stand. Amother one bites the dust.

Walker isn't the most talented player we have had in a Bulls shirt but I can't remember a game where I've watched him and thought he didn't give his all. We might well need a few Chev's next season if we drop out the top tier.

I agree with that

He's not, and never will be, a prop - and I'm sure he'd be the first to say that. But he's stuck his hand up and thrown himself into the role when we were short.

It's hardly his fault that, for a variety of well-chronicled reasons, we are criminally short of props

From a Saints point of view I thought FA was spot on.

For the opening 20 it was a bit of a slogg, but defenses were on top. There were good tactics from Bradford, with that wind behind them they could just kick us back to the 20 every set.

But once the line broke for Bradford that's when the game plan fell apart. I'm not sure had you held us in that first half, that you would have had enough to cope in the second with the wind at our backs, but it would have been closer. There was one point were the dummy half for Bradford almost scored. We seemed to fall asleep and I could not see, but assumed he landed short.

Second half the legs, the heart and the energy was gone from Bradford. There was not much they could do. But I don't think you can blame the players the coach or the owner. This all comes down to the previous owners. You can't sign players as they are all under contract. The players you have got could have walked at any point.

The points deduction whilst IMO something the game has to enforce, has made it a bridge too far. You are only one win behind Wakefield, so in terms of a normal season it would be a hum dinger of a relegation battle. But without recovering 2 points from the appeal, it just seems too far a stretch to win say 6 games between now and the end of the season.

Chev is never short of effort in my opinion.

I was watching, we scored 0. Not could have scored 10.
We scored nothing, zero, zilch, diddly squat. Out of 80 minutes you've picked one attempt from dummy half as a reason we could have scored 10 points?



I was at that game. He did ok. Nothing more. I doubt NRL clubs watched that game and though "hmm that Gale is class,he could replace Cronk, Thurston" In fact I doubt Warrington (who have a half back issue) will be knocking on Mr Green's door to sign him.
Again one game. What about the other 12. Leeds, Wigan, Hull, Hull KR, Widnes?

I would have Gale ahead of Addy. But that doesn't make him "a class HB"

Potter isn't a class act when it comes to coaching? Seriously, has today totally blown your mind?

Quite, I've read some daft comments but that has to be right up there with the best of them.

Yeee haaaaaaaaaaa the old favourite
Lee isn't or never has been the defence coach. But lets not facts get in the way of a good old scapegoat session.

Maybe he should be the defence coach then.

We certainly need one.

Whenever I see St Hilaire he does this

then turns to the coaches box and does

And that exactly why I responded with the quote below earlier, as I have yet to meet anyone who can tell me what exactly his role is .... Other than Assistant Coach!

Whether he is or isn't is a moot point, but I guess both he and FC have to take some if not all responsibility for the points mentioned in lots of posts above.

It is a fine line between blaming the players or the coaching team for such an abject performance .... Maybe we need a root and branch review?

Bewareshadows comments on the game are spot on. And I agree with most of FA's views on the game.
Plenty of effort early on but daft mistakes in the back end of the first half left us with little hope at half time.
When I heard the team's announced I felt we were in for a long afternoon. I looked at the squad's printed on the back page of the programme -- 37 names in the Saints squad of which at least 30 would walk into our starting 17.
It's well documented that we have the smallest squad in the league. Today that was supplemented by 3 loan players with at most 2 weeks training with the team.
We were missing BK and Gale from the key back positions,Ferguson Donaldson and Blythe in the back row,Fakir and Manu at prop. Which of them would not be in our first choice 17?
Saints forwards played as a pack -- ours were individuals. Both Saints half backs plus Wilkins and Roby completely controlled the play.
So we lost to the team in second place-- that's hardly a surprise. The worry for all of us should be that any confidence the team has gained in the past 2 games has been dissipated.

I know as fans we all want to be competitive, but at this time. The Bulls should not take this as a knock to confidence. Last week was a very good win. the Bulls may very well be better keeping their best for London, Wakey, Salford, basically the bottom 8 as if you are going to win 16 points. They are the 8 games that will do it an anyone else is a bonus.

Brush off today as a a bad day at the office. May is going to be a hell uv a tough month, June is where the season will really tell for Bradford. Along with any points regained. 3 out of 4 games in June, will allow you to get back in the race. It's not a given, but if you can get close, your last 2 games of the year could be the difference between staying up and going down.

Pick up 3 wins in June and someone will be looking over their shoulders. Not sure who yet.

His role under Potter was to do the video reviews.


That's a different point to what you were making at first. Your original post was LS was responsible for the defence which he isn't.

Weather you like it or not LSH has been here a very long time and in that time we have not performed on the pitch despite having different head coaches, so you can't tell me the poor performances on the pitch are nothing to do with him its all the head coach's problem!

Why did we start with a rookie on the wing and leave an experienced SL winger on the bench for 60 mins. Why did we have a rookie on the bench and use him for at best in two 5 mins stretches on the field? Who is the coach looking after youngsters or the older experienced players?
Too many players looked disinterested and most of them looked far below SL standard. When we are relegated who is going to sign them, the ones of SL standard have already been signed ie.Scruton, Carvell,Sammut and Bateman.
It's so frustrating after the previous two performances.