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| I'm always happy to accept any evidence which matches my pre-conceived ideas and proves I was correct all along..
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The cold hard evidence proved it was not a knock on. Just deal with it, and move on.'"
Did you defend the 4 Los Angeles police who beat, sorry defended themselves, Rodney King using the same evidence?
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| Thought FA operated in the British, and specifically English, court....
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Thought FA operated in the British, and specifically English, court....'"
I thought it was a different planet.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Did you defend the 4 Los Angeles police who beat, sorry defended themselves, Rodney King using the same evidence?'"
Oddly enough, no. But since you weirdly brought it up, it is people like you, not me, who are capable of ignoring plain image evidence. It's all very well disbelieving a theory, but it takes a closed mindset to continue to disbelieve when presented with compelling image evidence. Of course the Addy incident is a mere trivia, and nothing at all to remotely compare with King, and I wonder why you raised that sickening case, but there were plenty whose eyes saw the images of the beating he took, but whose minds didn't register it.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Oddly enough, no. But since you weirdly brought it up, it is people like you, not me, who are capable of ignoring plain image evidence. It's all very well disbelieving a theory, but it takes a closed mindset to continue to disbelieve when presented with compelling image evidence. Of course the Addy incident is a mere trivia, and nothing at all to remotely compare with King, and I wonder why you raised that sickening case, but there were plenty whose eyes saw the images of the beating he took, but whose minds didn't register it.'"
I raised it because the defence infamously manipulated real time visual evidence to distort the truth of what happened. Sadly, it worked for them, but not for you.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I raised it because the defence infamously manipulated real time visual evidence to distort the truth of what happened. Sadly, it worked for them, but not for you.'"
No, what's sad is that you are so blinkered that you refuse to accept the evidence of UNMANIPULATED screen grabs. Your accusation of manipulation, and compounding it with falsely posting I did this "to distort the truth", really is beneath contempt, I am surprised at you, and I object to it. Those are the images that were on Sky.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No, what's sad is that you are so blinkered that you refuse to accept the evidence of UNMANIPULATED screen grabs. Your accusation of manipulation, and compounding it with falsely posting I did this "to distort the truth", really is beneath contempt, I am surprised at you, and I object to it. Those are the images that were on Sky.'"
I have looked at your grabs on a couple of occsaions & cannot make sense of them in isolation. I am as convinced by them as I am of photos of the Loch Ness Monster. I have watched replays of the action on a few occasions & still believe it to be a knock on.
Nevertheless, I didn't set out to offend & suggest you doctored anything (Definition of manipulation: General: Artful, expert, or skilled handling of an implement or situation). I am sorry if it did cause you offence.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I have looked at your grabs on a couple of occsaions & cannot make sense of them in isolation. I am as convinced by them as I am of photos of the Loch Ness Monster. I have watched replays of the action on a few occasions & still believe it to be a knock on.
Nevertheless, I didn't set out to offend & suggest you doctored anything (Definition of manipulation: General: Artful, expert, or skilled handling of an implement or situation). I am sorry if it did cause you offence.'"
Fair do's.
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| I was tempted to give it to Shudds for their sad, bitter, paranoid bad sportsmanship but it has to go to the pre-season favourites Wakey Whingers. Not content with blaming the ref for having their asses handed to them by the Cod'eads they spend more time whining about Leeds bullies apparently getting away with murder against Hudds than commenting on their own team. If they had any supporters their site would implode with bitterness.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I was tempted to give it to Shudds for their sad, bitter, paranoid bad sportsmanship but it has to go to the pre-season favourites Wakey Whingers. Not content with blaming the ref for having their asses handed to them by the Cod'eads they spend more time whining about Leeds bullies apparently getting away with murder against Hudds than commenting on their own team. If they had any supporters their site would implode with bitterness.'"
You are a bitter bitter Tot.
Did a Wakefield supporter once kick your dog or something?
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| Quote ="PopTart"You are a bitter bitter Tot.
Did a Wakefield supporter once kick your dog or something?'"
I dislike all fans equally, so am mortally offended. Apart from Wigan, who I dislike evne more.
When I went to Wakey I was the one man & his dog, so there was no-one else there to kick it.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I dislike all fans equally, so am mortally offended. Apart from Wigan, who I dislike evne more.
When I went to Wakey I was the one man & his dog, so there was no-one else there to kick it.'"
Surely you should have kicked it yourself?
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| In the quietest week for whinging yet I have detected only one whinge, from a Widnes fan, with the classic he was crap for both sides statement. Widnes trying for a victory from 8th position. Unfortunately Whinge Watch doesn't operate a play-off system.
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| Quote ="tigertot"In the quietest week for whinging yet I have detected only one whinge, from a Widnes fan, with the classic he was crap for both sides statement. Widnes trying for a victory from 8th position. Unfortunately Whinge Watch doesn't operate a play-off system.'"
You know what that is don't you? Well, it ends in.......and disgrace!
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| Quote ="Bulliac"You know what that is don't you? Well, it ends in.......and disgrace!'"
The tiger is not for turning. I intend to split Whinge Watch SL into 2 divisions of 7 with P&R between each. I will do this at a time to amuse myself & penalise Wigan.
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| From the table above it seems that the bottom four clubs have nothing to complain about.
So by inference the more whinging the better your teams place in the league. So my early "magic whinges"are that Cudjoe was clearly offside for his third try and that Kopout deliberately threw himself under Scrutes boots and the ref was totally wrong to send the Bulls player off.
It was also clear the shocking pale blue of the seating prevented the Bulls scoring and the Bulls fans would have been shocked if they had actually reached the stadium but were all sat in a jam on the M62 deliberately caused by Wakey fans
Surely we must be top now?
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"From the table above it seems that the bottom four clubs have nothing to complain about.
So by inference the more whinging the better your teams place in the league. So my early "magic whinges"are that Cudjoe was clearly offside for his third try and that Kopout deliberately threw himself under Scrutes boots and the ref was totally wrong to send the Bulls player off.
It was also clear the shocking pale blue of the seating prevented the Bulls scoring and the Bulls fans would have been shocked if they had actually reached the stadium but were all sat in a jam on the M62 deliberately caused by Wakey fans
Surely we must be top now?'"
The jam was originally going to be caused by giants fans but they left the door of the telephone box open when they had their meeting and were overheard...it was lucky the Wakey fans took it up, or we'd have had nothing to moan about!
I was more than a bit miffed though as I missed the game anyway, since I was in the first aid tent having tripped over the lead on the referee's guide dog whilst entering the stadium...
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"From the table above it seems that the bottom four clubs have nothing to complain about.
So by inference the more whinging the better your teams place in the league. So my early "magic whinges"are that Cudjoe was clearly offside for his third try and that Kopout deliberately threw himself under Scrutes boots and the ref was totally wrong to send the Bulls player off.
It was also clear the shocking pale blue of the seating prevented the Bulls scoring and the Bulls fans would have been shocked if they had actually reached the stadium but were all sat in a jam on the M62 deliberately caused by Wakey fans
Surely we must be top now?'"
I did once make a ruling on the timing of whinging, but it was deleted with a few other hilarious posts & an up to date league table by a heartless Mod. I think it was that whinges have to be within 24 hours of the game unless you are Wigan or Wakey when I will consider them within 50 years of the offence. So you lose out on a technicality, though I have decided to award double-whinge points for the Magic Weekend,as there is bound to be a tirade due to the big games & a big audience.
I am also starting a Corrections section. I was distracted by Tory swivel-eyed loons & missed that Widnes already had a point from an earlier Denis Betts indiscretion, so they are well in the top 8, though I fancy them for relegation to WWSL2 in the near future.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I did once make a ruling on the timing of whinging, but it was deleted with a few other hilarious posts & an up to date league table by a heartless Mod. I think it was that whinges have to be within 24 hours of the game unless you are Wigan or Wakey when I will consider them within 50 years of the offence. So you lose out on a technicality, though I have decided to award double-whinge points for the Magic Weekend,as there is bound to be a tirade due to the big games & a big audience...'"
Since it's magic weekend surely any mention of a certain Jordan Tansey try and Ganson's role in that for which he has clearly been rewarded with promotion to head of refs and the RFL just delayed the new job announcement so nobody would draw a connection between the 2 events but it's clear their agenda was fulfilled, has to count even before this weekend.
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"Since it's magic weekend surely any mention of a certain Jordan Tansey try and Ganson's role in that for which he has clearly been rewarded with promotion to head of refs and the RFL just delayed the new job announcement so nobody would draw a connection between the 2 events but it's clear their agenda was fulfilled, has to count even before this weekend.'"
It's a fair point but I'm struggling to see how I can incorporate it into my scoring as Ganson won't be reffing nor Tansey laiking against you. Though I might use it if I am desperate.
I still remember the incident with a mixture of hilarity & horror. I had had a bet & was up on every game. I was laughing at the ridiculousness of the penalty, the kick & try but screaming at the TV at the same time as I saw £50 down the drain. How I wish Whing Watch was in place for the aftermath of that one.
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| You cannot be serious in only allowing 50 years for Wakey and Wiggin fans, we at Odsal yield to no-one in retro whingeing.
Forget Tansey and Ganson, though that incident was indeed a lamentable J & D as well as being a travesty, what about the Voluntary tackle - in a Grand Final no less AND the ludicrous decision to send Penguin off at Saints in a play-off we were winning by ten points at the time [found no case to answer, let's not forget and would surely have won, and which was a J & D at 11 on a scale of 1 to10.
[i:3mn0adooEven Stevo[/i, though that could have been me talking to myself....
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| I remember one of the first matches I saw back in 85AD when the Bradfordium Taurorum as we were known then where playing the Wiganchester Pieetums at our old ampitheatre off the Via Manchester. The disgraceful ref sent of our promising Briganti winger off for cruxifiction for an alleged high tackle.
This was just before the emperor Nigelus Lignum declared that our rights to a % of the Gladitorial games receipts would be withdrawn for two years.
Some disgraces go on over the ies. I think 2000 year old whinges really should count double, and Alex Salmond agrees!
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| We all know tigertot's narcissism hour this week will got to Hull KR but let's be honest they're right it was bang wrong!
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| I won't bother checking their site but would tend to agree they have a claim. Virtually every decision you can see why the ref made that call but not in this instance (though it was the VR obviously).
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