I certainly will be. There were two drums there today, do either of the owners post on here? It really helps to get the chants started and getting behind the players can only help. We need to make as much noise as possible for the rest of the season, get behind the lads and help them force their way into the play-offs. We can beat Saints and Leeds, we've proved that. After what I've heard about Leeds' performance today, that's certainly winnable. And if we beat Saints first, we'll be on a roll to beat the Whinos.

I didn't check the scores this week but Saints 50-10 Castleford. Did anybody go to or listen to the game? Were Saints good or Cas bad? If Saints have hit top form we may have to worry, but I still think we can do it.

Sounded like a blow out.

Saints are in good form like, but Cas haven't been great recently and massively missed shenton and westerman plus still have sherwin out.

Wouldn't look too much into it, but next week saints have to be favourites.

We dont have to worry about Saints at all, we've beaten them once at their ground when they were in good form, so there is no reason why we cannot beat them at our home ground when we are starting to find some form.

This seems an odd statement, unless you have a crystal ball for the remaining fixtures?

The second point you make it more pertinent IMO

I'm just going from this which you didn't comment on.

more games!!

IMO too

If we can't beat people like Leeds and Saints then there's not really any point in being in the play-offs in the first place.

Right bear with me here, with my positive head on I've been looking at the fixtures for this weekend and I spotted something interesting (? well maybe not that intertesting but tough). The position today in the bottom half of the league;

7th Wigan.....17pld 14 pts
8th Hull........16pld 14 pts
9th Wire.......16pld 14 pts
10th Cas.......16pld 14 pts
11th Bulls......15pld 13 pts
12th Catalan..15pld 12 pts

The following are the fixtures this week, in the order played importantly, and my guess at the results with the winners in bold; (no wigan game)

[uFri[/u
Hud V Cas
Hull V Salford
[uSat[/u
Catalan V Wire
Celtic V HKR
Quins V Leeds
[uSun[/u
Bulls V Saints ?

If the results went that way on Friday and Saturday, and the reason I mention all this is that none would be shocks IMHO, we would start our game, the only game on the Sunday, knowing that a win against saints would put us 8th! That should be a huge motivation for the lads and crowd alike;

7th Hull.........17pld 16 pts
8th Bulls.......16pld 15 pts
9th Wigan.....17pld 14 pts
10th Catalan..16pld 14 pts
11th Wire.......17pld 14 pts
12th Cas........17pld 14 pts

If Salford could snatch a win we'd even go to the dizzy heights of 7th!

Only slight problem is St Helens

, but the point Im making is that before that game even kicks off there could be a huge incentive placed in front of our guys by the other results.

There's a huge incentive every game. Which is why I'm so baffled by the Saints fan on the VT trying to argue that the play-offs reduce incentive to win regular rounds.

With the playoff system our game on Sunday is massive, without the playoffs we'd already be concentrating on next season and so it would only be important for Saints. The playoffs might be too big now, and there needs to be more definate rewards for higher placings like we used to have in my own view, but overall they definately add to the competition.

I haven't been excited as I am now all this season. Really looking forward to testing ourselves against the Saints on Sunday.

Me too. If we keep our defence solid and complete our sets we can easily win this one. The play-offs may be there begging for the lads on sunday, we've already proved we have the quality to beat saints, so lets do the double on them.

yeah im looking forward to it too!! its a win win for me!! i still think you have no chance of making the play off's. this is the closest the bulls have been to me been proved wrong. so i understand why your excited. some how my lot are in second(well for a week any way) and we have been pretty poor this year by our own standards.

the table is looking very interesting with the last 2 laps of the season to go!!

wow wow wow there my bulls friend! one step at a time!! saints come to odsal looking to right some wrongs from the last meet you had. they are coming off a 40 point win without 2 of their best players.

you need to be nothing short of your best so far this season and saints to be below par for it to be easy!! you should be praying for summer rain my friend! because if its a hot hot day and the track is fast you will be looking down the barrel of 50 point loss too.

I didn't mean easily as such, but that if we can to the basics right, we will have a good chance. If our forwards dominate again, and lay a platform, it could be easier than expected.

Blah Blah Blah

Heard it all last time out pal, from both Leeds and Saints. Thought they were coming for an easy win and all that, but all they left with in the end up with was a bloody nose.

the league table doesnt lie pal

It's got nothing to do with how we play on the day, the league table was very similar this week to how it was when we played both Leeds and Saints earlier on this season. We were expecting to be 'looking down the barrel of a 50 point loss' on both opccasions, but it wasn't us that ended up looking down the barrell of a loss.

leeds and saints both probably had their worst performances of the season against you lot. you worked hard and got the wins fair play!!

but you are talking about these games in context of making the play off's.

what you are talking about is beating wire, saints and leeds 3 weeks on the bounce!! if you do that then hats off to ya!!

i think you kidding ya selves!! but enjoy it while it lasts!! thats what i say

I have faith.

. leeds didn't have their worst performance against us : Harlequins and Salford? I don't think Saints did either, in their 4-0 win over Celtic they were $hit.

not true

saints played celtic in water polo conditions and nobody knows better than you lot that celtic are a good team(they just need time)

harlequins were outstanding when they beat us, they are the real true dark horse for the title.

salford have proved they have real quality in their team!! we lost to them by 10 points and salford had 2 interception trys and went the length of the field against the run of play for both, the first was the last play of the first half and the second was in the last minute of the second. we were unlucky that day, but thats how it goes sometimes

ive been to all but one leeds game this season and imo the bulls was the worst we played

Again, Blah Blah Blah, everybody seems to have their worst performances against Bulls, don't consider the fact that they came up against a good team that played extremley well on both occasions and stopped both top quality teams from getting into their stride's during those games.

I'm not saying we are going to beat Saints this week, what I'm saying is I'm looking forward to testing ourselves against them, I'm also saying we have nothing to fear from either Saints or Leeds because we have beaten them both once already this season, when many, like you expected them to run us through.

I think you're kidding yourself, what you are talking about is Saints just turning up and putting us to the sword, more than likley like you thought they would, and Leeds aswell 2 months or whenever it was ago.

You've got to realise that we are'nt just going to roll over and die for you, Saints or anybody.

That one strange. When Leeds and Saints get beaten by most teams, the better team won, they have good quality, good teams etc. When Bradford beat both the teams were poor and so were Bradford. If Celtic are a good team, then why have they only won 2? And if Celtic are good, Bradford must be better than good because as you pointed out earlier "look at the table".

lets set a few things straight!!



i never expect that i dont take anything for granted in SL show me where i have ever said that.



where did i say saints just have to turn up?? oh i didnt or thought that leeds or saints would role over you in the first place?? thats right i didnt!





your season to date would suggest different!! the view of a lot of your fans would say different!! do you read any of the treads on your board??? or do you just come on here when you win??

i will chat rugby all day mate but you obviously dont know my views on the game!!