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| Quote ="Adeybull" Surely you are not suggesting that the RFL is so under the influence of Leeds that this is what their game is...?
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Good heavens. No! Perish the thought! cant imagine that there is any ulterior motive from the RFL other than approaching Macca to be GB coach after his exceptional and proven skills shown over the last few years in tactical coaching a SL team.
It is inconceivable that the RFL would wish to enduce his employment with them at a time where his current employer was deliberately put into a position that seroiusly disadvantaged them both in operation and financial terms.
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| Based on his record for the last 4 years surely it would be in all other teams' interests to keep him at Bradford?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Kept my powder dry on this one till someone else popped up over the parapet...
Er...re [iMainstream Developments[/i - inducement to breach also has to be done with the intention of harming the other party financially, if it is to be actionable? Surely you are not suggesting that the RFL is so under the influence of Leeds that this is what their game is...?
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I was not, as use of 'cohersed' may give away, being entirely serious!
What I actually expect to happen if he goes is that we will inevitably be told that an undisclosed sum of 'substantial compensation' has been agreed, and everyone shook hands and was happy.
It'll probably be about a tenner.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"It'll probably be about a tenner.'"
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"A coq and hen not to be sniffed at.'"
As opposed to coq and Bull . . .
I'll get me coat.
PS great avatar
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| Let him go now if he wants, Put Menzies and Medley in temporary charge until we find someone for the job.
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| As I have said before if this turns out to be true then it shows McNamaras' true colours. The board have stuck by him through thin and thinner during his reign and now he might walk out and turn his back on them?
If true that would kinda sum him up. Just a shame he did not quit when no-one else wanted him.
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| I'm not a fan by any means, but the fella needs some job secand you can't blame him for looking at his options.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"I'm not a fan by any means, but the fella needs some job sec and you can't blame him for looking at his options.'"
I don't blame him. I just cannot believe he has options.
The sooner he goes the better and if he leaves us in the lurch I wonder what his apologists will have to say?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie" The board have stuck by him through thin and thinner during his reign and now he might walk out and turn his back on them?
If true that would kinda sum him up. Just a shame he did not quit when no-one else wanted him.
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Sum him up?
Whatever your opinion of his coaching abilities and don't think you can question his commitment to the club.
I expect he will stay with the Bulls until the end of his current deal unless a settlement can be reached with the RFL that suits us better. Perhaps the Bulls would rather bring in a replacement immediately and combined with a compensation package from the RFL is the best deal.
I can't see Macca simply quitting the club though.
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| We're through the looking glass now, people.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Sum him up?
Whatever your opinion of his coaching abilities and don't think you can question his commitment to the club.
I expect he will stay with the Bulls until the end of his current deal unless a settlement can be reached with the RFL that suits us better. Perhaps the Bulls would rather bring in a replacement immediately and combined with a compensation package from the RFL is the best deal.
I can't see Macca simply quitting the club though.'"
There are obviously more issues involved here than we are now aware of.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I don't blame him. I just cannot believe he has options.
The sooner he goes the better and if he leaves us in the lurch I wonder what his apologists will have to say?'"
You have been demanding for so long now that he should resign immediately, regardless of contract or consequences - yet now that looks a distinct probability, you accuse him of leaving us in the lurch. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you might try. Can you? It looks like you are about to get what you have been wishing for for so long.
I have seen nothing reported from the club which suggested they looked keen on reappointing him. That, indeed, was the point Connor Murphy was making in the impassioned, and still VERY intriguing article with which I started this thread. If that truly be the case, and having been on the receiving end of the attacks of many people like yourself, if he has other options then would it be any surprise if he chose to pursue them?
I read today Mozza signing Macca's praises. Others far better placed than anyone on here have done the same. I doubt people need to worry about him having options.
If this IS now a done deal, let us all hope that the club is in a position to appoint the kind of successor that you and others of like mind expect. An appointment from outside would be the first since Brian Smith, of course. Do we hope for another Brian Smith?
I hope people have indeed been very careful in what they wished for.
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| Said it on the T & A, but what about David Waite?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Said it on the T & A, but what about David Waite?'"
His lack of recent coaching would maybe suggest he wouldn't want a FT Head Coach position?
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| Possibly Bully.
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[i@bu07lls I think I nailed my colours firmly to the mast with my piece last week. I would be very disappointed if he leaves now.[/i'"
I still can't get it clear whether Murphy (and yes indeed he did) is imploring the Bulls to do their best to keep Macca, or for Macca to do the right thing and stay with the Bulls? Or both! Nor can I make much more sense out of what the parties are reported as saying in the media.
It DOES sort of look to me like, as was said above, there is plenty more to all this than we know about. And the thought has certainly occurred to me that some in high places might savour the prospect of prising the Bulls' coach away from his club at just the time all he has been working on might just be coming together. Whatever the truth of it all is, my suspicion is that the RFL is not popular up at Odsal right now, But, like pretty well everyone else, I am guessing. And I'm not about to put anyone at the club in a difficult position by asking them.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You have been demanding for so long now that he should resign immediately, regardless of contract or consequences - yet now that looks a distinct probability, you accuse him of leaving us in the lurch. You can't have it both ways, no matter how hard you might try. Can you? '"
Maybe a slight misunderstanding here. As you rightly say I will possibly get exactly what I have wanted for so long pretty soon and I am happy about that.
In regards to "leaving us in the lurch" I was more referring to the board that have backed him over his tenure. If he just walks out on them it would be a right kick in the teeth to them I suggest.
As for me??? I will be too busy cracking open the Champagne to care.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"As for me??? I will be too busy cracking open the Champagne to care.
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Now that's where you and I likely differ as types then. Cos in such a situation, I'd be thinking it would be prudent to keep that champagne on ice - at least until I saw who the successor was. Sometimes its amazing how quickly elation can turn to despair - in my five decades and some, I've seen too many examples of that. And that's why I've learned - sometimes the hard way - the need to be careful what you wish for.
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| Quote ="af"Don't think you'll need too many glasses.'"
Now now, no need to get stroppy just because your hero is about to do one.
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| How long does the next guy get Eddie. And what's the criteria for success?
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| He's going then.
In the short term, i'm really pi$$ed off that our board has shown us to be spineless again. Given in and let him do both roles, which is what Hood said was exactly what he didn't want. If he was definitely going I'd have kept him doing the Bradford job till november and make sure he was fully comitted to that.
In the long term I could be very happy (if we get Taylor, Elliot, Folkes etc) or very sad (Lowes, McDermott, Cullen, Millward or McRae).
What I would like to know though, and I hope to god we have a fans forum before november, is what SM meant by "Bradford is my be all and end all"? Even if your future wasn't certain, surely if something is your be all and end all you would risk waiting for the opportunity to stay comitted to something that is your be all and end all.
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| Brian Smith to come in next season with Menzies as assistant.
Smith also working as mentor to McNamara with the England set up.
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