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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I thought we'd signed Briggs as our stand off? Good young British talent. What would be the point of signing him to be backup? A player of his ability should be starting. If he's not good enough to be our 1st choice stand off, we shouldn't have signed him. He may not be ready straight away but we have enough cover to allow him to settle in short term.'"
I'd agree with that 100%. Likewise I don't think Briggs would have moved to be a back-up.
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| We dont need any cover at LF. Langley is an outstanding backrower. Sutton is a good player I agree, but not top class.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I thought we'd signed Briggs as our stand off? Good young British talent. What would be the point of signing him to be backup? A player of his ability should be starting. If he's not good enough to be our 1st choice stand off, we shouldn't have signed him. He may not be ready straight away but we have enough cover to allow him to settle in short term.'"
If he is good enough, he'll be in the team.
I see no reason why we shouldn't look to further strengthen the squad though.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"We dont need any cover at LF. Langley is an outstanding backrower. Sutton is a good player I agree, but not top class.'"
Agreed langley is an outstanding backrower. but a creative loose forward he isnt. Thats why he's been used in the 2nd row,where he's more effective, for most matches for a few years now. We've had burgess,morrison and beaver playing at loose for last few seasons. A creative loose forward would give us another attacking option which is never a bad thing.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"We dont need any cover at LF. Langley is an outstanding backrower. Sutton is a good player I agree, but not top class.'"
Langley would continue to be an outstanding player for us at second row or Prop. I personally prefer a 13 to be a creative player as well as a grafter.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Langley would continue to be an outstanding player for us at second row or Prop. I personally prefer a 13 to be a creative player as well as a grafter.'"
creative 13's seem to be a position thats gone out of favour a little last few years. can only really think of sinfield as an example since sculthorpe retired.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Langley would continue to be an outstanding player for us at second row or Prop. I personally prefer a 13 to be a creative player as well as a grafter.'"
I actually thought Langley had an extra dimension to him last week against Halifax. Obviously not to the level of a Sinfield or O'Loughlin, but he was certainly looking to move the ball on and look for options, rather than just carry it. I think he's been used as a 3rd prop over the last few years, which is a waste IMO, we should be looking to use him as an option.
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| Quote ="mat"creative 13's seem to be a position thats gone out of favour a little last few years. can only really think of sinfield as an example since sculthorpe retired.'"
Add Greg Bird, Sean O'Loughlin, Westerman to that list maybe? Perhaps it is a lack of quality 13's available rather than it being out of favour?
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| Ball hangling LF's are a thing of the past. Gimme a grafter anyday of the week. Langley is the best LF at the club and nobody is taking that jersey from him this year or next.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I actually thought Langley had an extra dimension to him last week against Halifax. Obviously not to the level of a Sinfield or O'Loughlin, but he was certainly looking to move the ball on and look for options, rather than just carry it. I think he's been used as a 3rd prop over the last few years, which is a waste IMO, we should be looking to use him as an option.'"
I don't doubt that Langley has some ball skills that we haven't seen too much of in recent years. But being able to shift the ball a bit isn't really the same as being creative. I like to see a 13 who can kick or put a player into some space. Just my thoughts though, I'm certainly not unhappy to have Langers there.
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| Sutton is top class. Unfortunately no chance Souths would release there number 6. We ain't guna get him.
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| Not a rumour, but what are peoples thoughts on making a bid for millard at wakey. they are desperate for cash and he looked to have a killer touch we may be lacking
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"Sutton is top class. Unfortunately no chance Souths would release there number 6. We ain't guna get him.'"
My source says different in terms of souths not releasing..
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| Quote ="slideby"Not a rumour, but what are peoples thoughts on making a bid for millard at wakey. they are desperate for cash and he looked to have a killer touch we may be lacking'"
we were linked with him before they signed him. as such I kept an eye on him whenever wakey were on sky last year and can't say I was too impressed. Think theres other areas of squad we could use a quota spot on to better effect.
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| Quote ="slideby"Not a rumour, but what are peoples thoughts on making a bid for millard at wakey. they are desperate for cash and he looked to have a killer touch we may be lacking'"
All our centres are better than Millard IMO. We dont need him.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"My source says different in terms of souths not releasing..'"
press reports i've read suggest souths are looking at SBW for after RU world cup, so back end of RL season at best. if thats true why would souths look to offload sutton any earlier?. hope your source is correct as sutton would be a good addition for us imo.
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| I remember a highlights clip on youtube in which Millard looked a real classy player. He looked fairly ordinary in the games I saw last year though.
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| Maybe the way the maths works out means they need to offload Suttons whole annual salary to get Sonny for a couple of months?
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| Quote ="jockabull"Maybe the way the maths works out means they need to offload Suttons whole annual salary to get Sonny for a couple of months?'"
possibly, but only works if they have another 6 ready to step up and fill suttons spot.
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| Quote ="mat"press reports i've read suggest souths are looking at SBW for after RU world cup, so back end of RL season at best. if thats true why would souths look to offload sutton any earlier?. hope your source is correct as sutton would be a good addition for us imo.'"
Maybe a gentlemen's agreement for us releasing Burgess? Do they have some young stars who are due an upgrade soon? Could be a few reasons I guess.
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| Quote ="mat"possibly, but only works if they have another 6 ready to step up and fill suttons spot.'"
They've just signed a moderately decent one...?
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| Quote ="mat"press reports i've read suggest souths are looking at SBW for after RU world cup, so back end of RL season at best. if thats true why would souths look to offload sutton any earlier?. hope your source is correct as sutton would be a good addition for us imo.'"
I don't know anything about the time lines..
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| Quote ="Block5Bull"They've just signed a moderately decent one...?'"
You referring to Inglis?
I read they were planning to utilise him at centre, which is probably his best position. He'd do a decent job at 6 though I guess...
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"You referring to Inglis?
I read they were planning to utilise him at centre, which is probably his best position. He'd do a decent job at 6 though I guess...
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I was. I'm sure at one stage he went a bit Leon and was demanding to play 6 if he was to stay in league. He also played there for the Storm quite a bit and, again like Leon, is pretty decent there.
If he's planned for centre he'd still make a decent outside half backup...
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I actually thought Langley had an extra dimension to him last week against Halifax. Obviously not to the level of a Sinfield or O'Loughlin, but he was certainly looking to move the ball on and look for options, rather than just carry it. I think he's been used as a 3rd prop over the last few years, which is a waste IMO, we should be looking to use him as an option.'"
Langers has always had the ability to beat a man, in fact he did it more consistently when he was a youngster than he seems to do now. At the moment though he is our best bet, but he will be under pressure from such as Donno and Addy, and of course, competition for places is just what we want.
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