Yes, called Vastman.

Well, whatever. Mind you, he HAS just wound our near-neighbours up with this little gem:


Make of that what you will!

Sorry, but I need to clear up what you're saying here.

Are you meaning by this, that Halley has become twice as good as a result of his 2 month loan at Wakefield?

How the hell is Menzies a better centre you fool. Granted not a better player overall but Martin played and won an NRL Grand Final at centre and playeyed over a 100 times in the NRL in that position which is something Menzies hasn't. Martin is a better centre tha Menzies, even Menzies would admit that - end of story for anybody with a brain.

Fight!!!

Yes he is and yes he is off his rocker.

Must have love, because when he joined us most of you lot were telling us he was cr*p. So are you saying he is still crap - you see the crud posted by the likes of redeverready and others tends to come back and bite the more sober Bulls fans.

You can't win this one - what was said is public record so if he is now a good player as many of you are suggesting I'd say that me saying he is twice the player is a touch modest - it's usually a bit further than that from cr*p to good

FYI: You will not find a single post from me criticising Halley. Feel free to go look, there won't be one.

But thank you for clearing that up for me. I just wanted to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me with what I was reading.

It appears your reputation on these forums is justified.



P.S. Please don't call me "love". I find one bloke saying that to another, a little off putting.

No I indulge in debate and reasoned argument, you are thick.

This, to you may well appear as being "off ones rocker" when debate for you generally consists of throwing your Special Brew at the telly and shouting abuse at anyone wearing a Rhino shirt who looks old enough, ill enough or small enough for you to feel safe.

Best thread for ages, it shows how far we have fallen when we are even arguing against these set of clowns.

Oh well, hopefully the franchise system will do its job next time round.

Oh ffs, try and read between the lines. I'll explain it to you before you get the reputation for being a dunce.

Of course he isn't twice the player I WAS TAKING THE MICK, though I suspect even someone as clearly over defensive as you would admit his spell at BV has done him no harm.

I was clearly having a dig at those Bulls fans and they know who they are who told us in no uncertain terms that Halley was cr*p, especially at F/B where he was nowhere near as good as the Clown Prince of Fullbacks Mr Pratt sorry Platt.

Now I simply can't believe I'm having to read what you post and explain it to you - your reputation for speed of thought and the ability to spot irony must be truly blinding - luv

And that attitude basically shows why you are now an also ran - pride before a fall.

You need to be superior to have a superiority complex.

Easy Fool, because he simply is, more pace, more skill, better defender you name it Menzies is better except kicking. Menzies has played a shed load of games at centre in the NRL, it wouldn't surprise me if it was rolling upto 100 games in that position. Stop banging on about some average joe like he's a bloomin world beater, he's a bog standard tryer, allways has been and always will be.. Steve Menzies = Better centre than Tony Martin even though he's a second row forward. End of Story.



Really, what reason have you got for thinking Ben Jeffries and David Solomona are our best? Anyone of us will tell you that's not the case.

You spout bovine faeces, little man.

This thread was started because of someone's preferences of players, whether that is biased or not is another matter. We are just an average side with average players, but can I remind you of this.......

5 Wakefield 8 5 0 3 194 145 10

10 Bradford 7 2 1 4 125 167 5

With that, I think some of you need to reserve judgement of the calibre of our players.

I know exactly what level we are at thank you.

However, i am confident we will be challenging again in the future - success cannot be sustained for such a long amount of time.

I also know you will not be and hopefully not given franchise - I am 99% confident we will be.

I have no problem with any SL club, good friends at most but Wakefield fans all seem to have a chip on their shoulder.

Wow after how many rounds? Think its a bit early to be getting all exited, it will be interesting if you can sustain this level for the whole season.

I think its pretty clear to see thats after 7/8 games, its in black and white.
Can you not understand or appreciate that you are not the force you once were, and that you have an average squad now? It will be interesting to see whether we sustain it for the remainder of the season, i agree....but I think 8th is realistic, even with our average squad

I think you need to understand that our team has probably got the best ethic in years, and despite what you think, it counts for something. Im not excited, im pretty realistic, it seems to be you who is getting excited after winning on Friday, perhaps that means your world beaters?

3 Q's.

1) How do YOU know? and then backtrack and say (Quote) "and hopefully not"(End quote).

2) Do you want a 4/5 team league then, i.e. Wigan, FC, Huddersfield, Leeds, Les Cats. And then them with inferior facilities, i.e Wakefield, Saints and Bradford, languishing in some comp that even the local press have little interest in. Bearing in mind most of the clubs I mention do not even own their own ground.

3) Your confidence springs from where exactly?

it will be funnier for you to maintain this form , i would buy into the "We are only so many games in" argument but so many of you wanted McBanana sacking last week so it must matter at this stage .

BTW happy easter

We just beat the back to back champions, something you have already failed to do this season. Yes, we have had our worst start in SL, but we are improving. We had a bad start in 2005 and people were writing us off, but we finished 3rd & won the GF. Stop getting carried away, you're yet to win anything in the SL era.

yes and we beat Catalans and cas and we are still in the cup .

Come and say all this when you have some real success in the SL era.

Read his post again, or at all if you haven't bothered.

He says he is not getting excited.

Yes you have beaten Leeds, and well done to you.

Thanks fella. Just we've ahd a bad start to the season really doesn't mean you're going to get an easy match. I'm tipping us to win, but still won't be shocked if we lose.