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| Only saw a fleeting glimpse of Robinson diving yesterday, but just seen a video on twitter (wobbly headed bull)
My god it's horrendous. Not sure which is worse, the fact he did it or the fact the linesman came running on with his flag thinking it was a penalty
Sorry i don't want to see that stuff on an RL field. I won't hold my breath but he should be banned. It's cheating. Over to you RFL.
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| I hoped I would never see it in RL but its creeping in,
Football is pathetic and it ruins watching a game.
Some of the tactics been employed by teams i.e diving like the clown in the video, or faking an injury to take the pace out of the game ala Rochdale, need to be stamped out now before the RL ends up like the not so Beautiful game.
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| Quote ="bowlingboy"I hoped I would never see it in RL but its creeping in,
Football is pathetic and it ruins watching a game.
Some of the tactics been employed by teams i.e diving like the clown in the video, or faking an injury to take the pace out of the game ala Rochdale, need to be stamped out now before the RL ends up like the not so Beautiful game.'"
Agreed, there's been a few games i''ve just not enjoyed watching because of the nonsense going on (doesn't help we're awful, but i'm use to us being rubbish,i'm a Bradford fan) But it needs stamping out. Unfortunately with the refereeing department looking in crisis, we're getting referees who aren't ready and don't officiate the cr@p that goes on. Straight away yesterday could have been a cleaner game if the referee awarded a penalty when Robinson threw the ball in Tonga's face. He didn't and as a result Swinton just played him like a fiddle.
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| He should be banned for that. More Monty Python than Swinton Lion
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| The game yesterday was one of the worst I have watched in 25 years,
as you stated it wasn't just because we are diabolical.
There was never any flow to it, it was start stop and penalty after penalty for the wrong thing at the wrong time.
I dare say if the game was allowed to flow a bit we would have probably come out on top, slightly.
If i'm honest its put me off wasting my time going watching matches.
Yesterdays game should have been a hard fought encounter, with little skill but a lot of "biff" it was in reality shambolic.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Only saw a fleeting glimpse of Robinson diving yesterday, but just seen a video on twitter (wobbly headed bull)
My god it's horrendous. Not sure which is worse, the fact he did it or the fact the linesman came running on with his flag thinking it was a penalty
Sorry i don't want to see that stuff on an RL field. I won't hold my breath but he should be banned. It's cheating. Over to you RFL.'"
I wasn't there yesterday but I've just seen this video on Twitter too. If the RFL don't do anything to Shaun Robinson for that, they may as well be telling everyone it's ok to do it. The (very clear) evidence is right there.
I'm also told from a colleague that there was an incident where the ball was thrown back in from the crowd to Macani for a restart, at which point the other Swinton winger stuck his foot out to interfere with the restart. Unpenalised. As well as that, some kind of "keep away" kind of incident when the Bulls were trying to take a tap, where the Swinton players kept deliberately putting the ball away from the man trying to pick it up?
I know it's "win at all costs" but this kind of unsportsmanlike behaviour just isn't welcome on an RL field IMO. Biff I excuse, it's always been part and parcel. But play acting and clutching your face, and playing keep away with the ball? Grow up lads.
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| Why give them the opportunity to even act like that in the first place though? You can see Sironen lash out at the player on the video. I doubt he even connected and if he did it certainly didn't justify such an ott reaction, but why do it?
You're going to get wind up merchants in this division. I dare say it will be even worse in League 1. Our players need to rise above and not get sucked in by it.
I think we might be coming away from yesterday's game with a ban or two. Swinton might have been grubby but we gave them plenty back. Campbell will get a ban and Scott Moore caught a Swinton player with a really bad high shot in the second half. The sort of tackle that would have caused pages of outcry on here if Josh Barlow had done it.
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| The referee was as inept as we were, probably worse. I can only assume it's some sick joke by the RFL. Surely, these people have to have SEEN a rugby game before, even if they've never played in one, before they're allowed to referee one? Maybe they didn't have a proper one spare so they asked someone in the pub if he'd mind filling in?
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"You got told wrong.'"
Having done a bit of research, he has done a few games in league 1 and been an ingoal touch judge for a leeds game. Ours was his first game at championship level. Still ridiculous he hasnt done more in the league below before moving up. Refs are getting fast tracked too quickly, there is a mass shortage and nothing is being done on the face of it other than give young refs who havent had time to develop games they arent ready for
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| The pathetic Sh1te from Swintons number 2, not just the play acting, has no place in the game. Is it any wonder fans are leaving the game ? And the Campbell tackle shouldn't have even been a penalty. No wonder the game is Fvcking dying. It's all right saying we shouldn't do this or that and get drawn in but if we want to watch touch and pass lets all just off to watch Old Brods and have done with it.
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| From my view, from the stand side, it looked a definite 10 mins but no more. It was dangerous and the players head tucked underneath but it was more the momentum of the players rather than Campbell trying to cripple some one. It was harsh.
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| Sorry but it was a red card any day of the week. You can't lift someone up and tip them over the horizontal like that, it was a very dangerous tackle.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"From my view, from the stand side, it looked a definite 10 mins but no more. It was dangerous and the players head tucked underneath but it was more the momentum of the players rather than Campbell trying to cripple some one. It was harsh.'"
Agreed. Seen the replay and still not changed my mind that 10 minutes was the correct decision. The Toulouse tackle we had earlier in the year was more dangerous and much more above the horizontal, but that was a sin-bin. Watching the replay, the ref was very quick to send Campbell off. Only spoke to one of his touch judges for about 2 seconds. Swinton players laughing and clapping tells you all you need to know.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Sorry but it was a red card any day of the week. You can't lift someone up and tip them over the horizontal like that, it was a very dangerous tackle.'"
I've seen far worse than that all year and not even get a penalty. Remember this one against Swinton? Just a penalty. Not even a sin-bin. Toulouse one? I could go on. We've had players speared, knocked unconscious from shoulder charges to the head, thrown into railings and the referees haven't acted on it. The consistency is farcical.
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| Just watched the replay of the game. Did anyone notice Robinson (Swinton No. 2) put his forearm into the face of Willie Tonga when he went down injured and had to come off, again not seen by the useless ref. or touch judge. I thought Josh Barlow was a nasty git but Robinson beats him with ease.
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| I think it speaks volumes when I spoke to Josh Barlow after the game and asked him what he thought of the sending off. He said himself he didn't think it was a red and it ruined the game.
I was surprised that he seemed quite a reasonable guy and was even complimentary about the bulls and fan base.
All things considered there's only so many times we can go through the same scenario. We need to wise up and find a way to win (for next year) regardless of the factors we clearly can't control.
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| No news about an appeal for this (FWIW I think they should, penalty and probably 10 mins for me, but never a sending off!), or do we have to wait a week for the RFL to cite a championship player?
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"No news about an appeal for this (FWIW I think they should, penalty and probably 10 mins for me, but never a sending off!), or do we have to wait a week for the RFL to cite a championship player?'"
They normally get cited on Thursday i believe.
I bet a fair sum Robinson doesn't get anything due to "inconclusive evidence" Bit like the farce we had with Thomas getting thrown into railings. What about a referees report!!??
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"They normally get cited on Thursday i believe.'"
A quick look at the RFL website shows they released last week's Championship Disciplinary details (along with Champ 1 & Academy) on Thursday last week, so sounds right.
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| We should ask for extra time to prepare our case. I believe there is a precedence.
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| Grade C Dangerous Throw charge for Johnny Campbell.
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| No charge for Shaun Robinson. Time to drag the sport down to the level of football with cheating and trying to get players sent off. All ok according to RFL. I give up.
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| For the Elbow/forearm on Tonga or the charge of acting like a reckless big girls blouse?
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| Quote ="Scarey71"For the Elbow/forearm on Tonga or the charge of acting like a reckless big girls blouse?'"
I'd sooner see him get a ban and a fine for the play acting. As daft as it sounds an elbow/forearm has been in the game for years. If done intentionally then it is bad but a lot of the time it's instinctive or reactional. Play acting is just disgusting. Needs to be dealt with before more people do it. Bit like at the start of the season where players passed the ball at players laying in the ruck. That's been stamped out pretty quickly.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"For the Elbow/forearm on Tonga or the charge of acting like a reckless big girls blouse?'"
To be fair, he's only about 2 foot tall, so maybe a little girl's blouse.
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