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| Quote ="Bullseye"Can’t remember who were we replaying but Fleming made a super break last year at Odsal in his own half. Got away a difficult offload to Mellor who drew the fullback to put Addy (I think) in under the posts. '"
I must have been there as I didn't miss a home game, but for the life of me can't remember it. I can only assume my memory has blanked it out so that it doesn't affect my general opinion that he's a bit cack.
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| Re the car park, I read on Facebook something about Robbie saying the council just hadn't opened it, though he didn't know why. I would have thought it was basically a profitable exercise, so why they didn't is strange.
I'd put it down to the council being dateless, as in not knowing which date the season stated.
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| There was also no closing of the road either. The police do that. Not sure on the council's involvement with it but police presence at games costs money, and I wondered if closing the road and policing that costs money over and above the standard.
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| Closing the road is based on a risk assessment I'd have thought rather than cost.
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| You would hope, but they did it even in the early pre SL entry cup games last year.
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| Quote ="vbfg"There was also no closing of the road either. The police do that. '"
Yeah that's right. Though I walked down towards Staygate after the game I never even noticed.
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| My main interest in the road closing is I get to ride down the wrong side of it on my bike and then hop the central reservation to avoid the police at the bottom.
I'll miss that.
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| Quote ="vbfg"My main interest in the road closing is I get to ride down the wrong side of it on my bike and then hop the central reservation to avoid the police at the bottom.
I'll miss that.'"
It's not usually the police - more a guy wearing a yellow/orange jacket, with a builder's pick up to put the cones and 'road closed' signs in....think powers of arrest may be above his pay grade!
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| It varies. You do get 'em down there, but more often right at the bottom by the roundabout. The barrier's usually a bit up the road to get the traffic off the roundabout.
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| Quote ="vbfg":2rfo8xjwIt varies. You do get 'em down there, but more often right at the bottom by the roundabout. The barrier's usually a bit up the road to get the traffic off the roundabout.'" - usually as he's clearing up. Truth is they may just as well just let him close the road there and let vehicles take another way round as force them to stand in Rooley Lane.
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| The whole point of closing the road is because normally hundreds of people want to get across the road all at once to Dunny's car park.
Obviously if that's shut, no need to close the road.
Pretty sure clubs only pay for any policing required IN the ground not outside.
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| I think if that’s the reason FA they’re disregarding the risk posed by existing traffic which I think is potentially unsafe. Cars can go very quick up and down that road and post-match there is a significant number of people crossing the road whether the Richard Dunn car park is open or not. There was on Sunday and I had to be pretty quick on my feet. Athletic types like us may be ok but the slower could end up as roadkill.
IMO the risk of an accident is increased without a temporary road closure.
If someone gets knocked down there will be some explaining to do by the fuzz.
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| The definition seems to be within the footprint of the event, which is the stadium but also the car parking and the immediate environment. But not routes to and from.
I don't know but I would be willing to bet there is a cost in closing that road.
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| For approx 10mins it'll be negligible.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I think if that’s the reason FA they’re disregarding the risk posed by existing traffic which I think is potentially unsafe. Cars can go very quick up and down that road and post-match there is a significant number of people crossing the road whether the Richard Dunn car park is open or not. There was on Sunday and I had to be pretty quick on my feet. Athletic types like us may be ok but the slower could end up as roadkill.
IMO the risk of an accident is increased without a temporary road closure.
If someone gets knocked down there will be some explaining to do by the fuzz.'"
Meh. The slackers should use the subways provided if they can't stand the pace
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| Anyone going down in the direction of Staygate can just use the zebra crossing. That's what we do on the way to the ground, so it's no hardship to do the same on the way back.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I think if that’s the reason FA they’re disregarding the risk posed by existing traffic which I think is potentially unsafe. Cars can go very quick up and down that road and post-match there is a significant number of people crossing the road whether the Richard Dunn car park is open or not. There was on Sunday and I had to be pretty quick on my feet. Athletic types like us may be ok but the slower could end up as roadkill.
IMO the risk of an accident is increased without a temporary road closure.
If someone gets knocked down there will be some explaining to do by the fuzz.'"
It isn't particularly obvious but they've reduced the speed limit to 30 mph now so it should be a bit safer on matchday. I'd agree though that reducing the limit probably isn't enough on its own and worse is a pain when it's NOT matchday.
Still it's par for the course - anyone want to start a sweep on when we'll be back to having someone with a red flag in front of all motor vehicles!
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| After watching the TV recording, it was a typical low key Bulls start to the season some good play interspersed with some awful tackling and even worse when being tackled. I noticed Cameo(aka Luaki) live up to his name with the usual brief appearance.
Fev were enthusiastic but didn't pose too many problems in front of goal.
Won't get any easier next Sunday though unless they start improving on the basics!
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| There was the odd poor attempt at tackles but I suppose you're going to get a bit of that over 80 minutes, the biggest bugbear, imo, was the fact we were constantly losing ground in the collision, both with and without the ball.
I think it's improbable that Jimmy didn't notice so I'd expect an improvement sharpish!
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| Quote ="Bulliac"There was the odd poor attempt at tackles but I suppose you're going to get a bit of that over 80 minutes, the biggest bugbear, imo, was the fact we were constantly losing ground in the collision, both with and without the ball.
I think it's improbable that Jimmy didn't notice so I'd expect an improvement sharpish!'"
It is only round 1, so I'd expect a build toward the end of the season
And we still won!
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"It is only round 1, so I'd expect a build toward the end of the season
And we still won!'"
Oh aye, I know - 'course it was only the first match for Fev as well, though they lost, so haven't been on here telling us about it!
I'm sure it will get better, or we're in for a long hard season. For one thing, I don't think the players will be too pleased, never mind the coach. We definitely can't afford to be soft up at Whitehaven on Saturday though, they got a tubbing at Fax last Sunday so will have a point to prove...though, I guess so have our pack.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I guess so have our pack.'"
That's the spirit!!
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Oh aye, I know - 'course it was only the first match for Fev as well, though they lost, so haven't been on here telling us about it!
I'm sure it will get better, or we're in for a long hard season. For one thing, I don't think the players will be too pleased, never mind the coach. We definitely can't afford to be soft up at Whitehaven on Saturday though, they got a tubbing at Fax last Sunday so will have a point to prove...though, I guess so have our pack.'"
To be fair to our pack we were a prop down most of match and 2 down in 2nd half. Thought we coped with that remarkably well. It probably contributed a bit to us losing collision so much as well. Looks like lauaki's short stint was due to injury rather than fitness, which ties in with him doing 40 mins week before. So maybe we're being a bit harsh on him.
One thing I noticed in first half was we were losing ball in tackle a lot. At first I thought it was poor ball retention on our part, then I noticed fevs number 6 ( Briggs?) was coming into tackles as third man and attempting to punch the ball out rather than tackling. Think our coaches noticed it as well and said something in dressing room at ht as he didn't have as much success with tactic in 2nd half.
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| Quote ="mat"One thing I noticed in first half was we were losing ball in tackle a lot. At first I thought it was poor ball retention on our part, then I noticed fevs number 6 ( Briggs?) was coming into tackles as third man and attempting to punch the ball out rather than tackling. Think our coaches noticed it as well and said something in dressing room at ht as he didn't have as much success with tactic in 2nd half.'"
Aye you are spot on there. He ended up punching Addy instead, then it all kicked off
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