Vain attempt at provideing a free but theoretically useful education:

Jack McLean

Ken Traill

Willie Davis

Tommy Smales

Frank Whitcombe

Frank Foster

Mike Lamb

Terry Price

David Barends

Jimmy Thompson

Len Casey

Johnny Woolford

Bob Haigh

Neil Fox

Dave Watson

Kelvin Skerrett

Jeff Grayshon

Terry Holmes

Ellery Hanley

Tevita Vaikona

Paul Newlove

John Woods

Shaun Edwards

Danny Peacock

Jeremy Donougher

Graeme Bradley

James Lowes

Henry Paul

Robbie Paul

Logan Swann

Ben Harris

Michael Withers

Paul Anderson

Lesley Vainikolo

Shontayne Hape

Joe Vagana

Terry Newton

Iestyn Harris

Glenn Morrison

Steve Menzies

I don't he's a plodder.
Like you say though, we doi struggle to get on a roll, but that's because we don't have those two extra props to come on and prove destructive, like Baloo and Fielden in years gone by. These two are big fellas with a bit of pace, and there hard to defend. We lack destruction and impact and I can't see a plodder changing that to be honest.

Dear me - we are opening up the history books now!

Kirk Dixon?

Are you serious? Why?

just putting two and two together and coming up with 5



sykes and dixon both out of contract and with rumors in cas of them signing sykes, given they already have shenton for other berth, dixon could be redundant/wanting too much money. he seems to be playing well this year and would also fill backup kicker role that sykes has.

Cant see anything happening to be honest as dont thinks theres much to choose between dixon and sykes and both are more valuable to their current clubs as they count as homegrown.

He's crap though mate. We shouldn't go there, not even as back up.

Only when necessary to confound the ignorant, though how you could answer the question of what big signings we have made, without refering to the big signings we have made, is a tad puzzling. Obviously not to you but still.

Of those listed, last time I looked, Newton, Morrison and Menzies were still with us. And you can add Hall on for next year now as well.

Shame on you Terry Monster, for shame.



Nero is a one man legion. Then again I always preferred him at centre too, last year Macca used him poorly all over the field and playing him when injured. This year Macca has learned not to mess about the players too much although I fear he is taking this too far with Deacs

I assumed that you were dealing with the present and most recent signings. It appears I was not the only one.

Still, never mind.

imo we need to take a look at defense down sykes/sheriffe wing as defensively they are both very week and this is being exploited on a regular basis. Pretty certain coaches have recognised this, would explain menzies remaining there at weekend even when sykes was fit.

Good signing IMO - scores tries and goals for fun, like the Worrloard pre Bulls

Puletua - looks good in a good team
Buderus - looks good in a good team
Hodgson - looks good behind a great defence
Chase - looks good with very good attacking players

Don't get me wrong i think all these players are having great seasons, and they are class players. I think Menzies although people might have thought hes to old, has proven most people wrong and is carrying the Bulls. Hes playing well with not much quality around him. I'd say hes been the better signing this season.

WOW, I can't believe people are seriously suggesting we sign Kirk Dixon. The lad is ordinary. Yes Sykes isn't the best player in the world, but he's a damn sight better than Kirk Dixon. We've got to have bigger aspiations in signing players, players like Dixon and Sykes don't really have the skills to trouble opposition IMO. We need a strike centre, or a centre than can make things happen for his winger.

I'd rather us go into the next season with Crookes.

Come on fans, look higher than that.

to turn it on its head. if we dont retain sykes which , who are available without a transfer fee, would you feel we should be looking at?

Spot on, I also took it to mean recent/present signings.

FA is just backtracking to look less of an idiot me thinks.

I am, you woodentop, and also trying to show these in the context of a long line of classy, in many cases illustrious, signings, to make the point that no-one should be surprised if Bradford sign a top player, as we have a long and distinguished record of doing so.

In my earlier post i stated that as far as i know, Newton, Morrison and Menzies are current players and are the most recent signings, and I also mentioned Hall, who is for next year but signed now.

I can't believe that I had to explain that, but comprehension isn't apparently your strong suit. Why do you have to try to be y and clever all the time? How many more top players - real top players - like Morrison, Menzies and Hall - would we have to sign for you to accept that we continue to be in the market for the top players? Do you really think we're not?

FA in resorting to insults shocker.

FWIW, Menzies, I accept, but if you are trying to say that Morrison and Hall are REAL TOP players, then it is no wonder I find it hard to take you seriously.

You [iare[/i on the wind up I assume?

Oh grow up FFS



I couldn't give a flying fart if you "take me seriously"!

But usually you backtrack and sidetrack to crawl away from embarrassment, and claim you were talking about something else altogether, so let's start by making it clear what we were discussing. I said:-


Eurob0re asked who these top class signings were, and you echoed by asking:


So I did. As I had made the point that I expected a club of our standing to "keep going" for top class signings, this (to the terminally uncomprehending) presupposes that we have a record of doing so, and based on that record I expect us to continue doing so.

That clear enough so far?

Presented with the evidence, you try to squirm out of your embarrassment by simply making some crack about "history books" - ignoring that 3 of those on the list are current players.

You then say you


But this is just disingenuous crap, as first it implies I am [inot[/i dealing with present and most recent signings - when I had in fact LISTED the present and most recent signings, as well as a long list going back to the 50s.

This alleged "assumption" of yours would not be so bad, if my list lost something by being restricted to "present and most recent signings" - but (apart from the fact that it would be out of context with my original post) it would not lose any such thing. Depending on how far back you want to add by way of "most recent" to "present", the list could, for example, be truncated to:

Lesley Vainikolo

Shontayne Hape

Joe Vagana

Terry Newton

Iestyn Harris

Glenn Morrison

Steve Menzies

Will these do for anyone for "present and most recent signings"? Are they "REAL TOP" enough for you?

Now you can try to ramp up your ludicrous case by trying to define your newly introduced phrase "REAL TOP" players (in fact I won't be surprised if you'll now want to to raise the bar to exclude anyone but Lockyer or equivalent) but Morrison and Hall would count as top class signings in any sensible person's book.

You get into an argument about semantics now if that's what you want, in your typical attempt to present yourself as having "won" your self-decreed "argument", but anyone who would claim that Morrison (over 200 NRL games scoring over 60 tries, selected for Country Origin in 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2005) or Hall (current NRL Grand Final winner, WCC winner) are outside the category of top class signings, must surely be on the wind-up.

You probably don't actually even know that for the second half of last season, Hall was mostly keeping Menzies on the bench? (Or is Menzies second rate too in your gaga opinion?)

But at least we now know what your personal bar is. Morrison and Hall are not top class signings in the weird and wacky world of mystic eddie. They are therefore second class signings. Riiiiight.





As on past form I expect you'll be far too embarrassed to attempt a reasoned response, I'll put your normal riposte in for you, to save you the bother:

I agree, I thought he was talking about the top class signings like Micheal Platt, Ricki SHerrife, Paul Sykes, Chris Nero, Semi Tadulala, Ben Jeffries, Wayne Goodwin and Micheal Worrincy. You know, them top class signings

[iMy[/i newly introduced phrase?

Strangely........







Oh dear!



Good signings they are indeed, but you claimed that they were "real top players" which is silly.



As it was widely accepted that Menzies was not neccessarily up to 80 minutes of RL in the NRL each week then why would I not know that? I suppose you think that Hall would have kept a Menzies in his prime on the bench?

However, as usual there are more than my dissenting voices against your stupid opinion but guess whose one you concentrate on the most?

Your obsession is touching however.

Don't be silly, that would go against his very selective argument.

Anyone who lists Logan Swann as a top class signing has zero credibility whatsoever.

At the risk of butting in on yet another FA/ME love fest (

)...what is your definition of a "REAL TOP CLASS" signing?

How many real top class players are there actually in the world?

So Menzies is a real top class signing?

So would one real top class signing a season be a realistic expectation for any club who is legally constrained by the salary cap?

What is better - one real top class signing and a few average players
or
several extremely good but maybe not "World class" signings?

29 caps.

Good player, just didnt work out well for him at Bulls, same as Sol.