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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"1. I doubt we'd be able to provide the proof of funding required to run a full time structure at a loss.
2. I doubt we'd last a year without going bust without the funds to run a full time structure at a loss.
3. Do we really want to run at a loss given what's happened over the last few years?
4. We haven't earned the right to be anywhere near the reckoning on the pitch which would bring the game into disrepute and we'd end up as everyone's most hated team again.
Given all that I reckon I'll stick a tenner on us being club number 12.'"
It wouldn't surprise me if Bulls were picked as team 12 due to RFL owning the lease at Odsal, they would rather have Bulls back at Odsal paying the 70k per annum rent. I don't think we are ready for SL.
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| Quote ="bulls2487"It wouldn't surprise me if Bulls were picked as team 12 due to RFL owning the lease at Odsal, they would rather have Bulls back at Odsal paying the 70k per annum rent. I don't think we are ready for SL.'"
Yeah 70K per annum plus the cost of repairing Odsal to the level it can get a safety certificate financed through advanced central funding payments in the belief we'll sell 20K season tickets in 2022
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| Aren't Sky demanding a 12 club competition for next year?
I think whoever takes it will be setting themselves up for an almighty fall. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't all sorts of conditions and reduced funding etc.
They will shaft who ever goes up. Why share the rapidly diminishing pie with underlings? They only need us for players....
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| Yeah I'm quite happy just continuing to build in the championship. Got some good kids coming through again who we're actually holding in to. In 2 years I think we will be ready to have a good crack at getting into SL. Never know, if things fall into place this year, we might even earn it on the field which is how it should be. There's not a Toronto, no one coming down and just one good team going up.
Toulouse or London for me. York can be an outstanding SL team, but like us probably best just continuing to build and be ready in a couple of years. Let's not forget they played 3 lost 3 earlier this year.
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| I don't think we're in a position to go back up into SL any more. We certainly don't have the team for it. Plus we don't have a ground.
But just for the number of heads that would explode if we got the nod... totally worth it
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| I can see where the clamour from Toulouse comes from and it makes sense in a way, but in regards to players? Toronto will have a few available I guess....
Bull mania at Odsal returns. Next stop the super dome!
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| Toulouse? I think the Toronto debacle makes Toulouse less likely and even throws the spotlight on Catalans who often turn out with barely six or seven French men in the 17. France RL are possibly worse than when they entered SL and if they both got to a final it'd make the Covid finals this year look packed.
My vote would be for London. The owner has invested loads over many years. They performed with credit in SL last time. If they'd had a stable ground I think there's a case they'd have been a real success story.
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| Toulouse got their application in quickly. It's almost as if they already knew.
The Featherstone chairman has gone on a bizarre public rant about how the decision to give Toronto the boot was down to self interest and greed from the very people they need to impress with their application that he then went on to confirm they would be submitting.
i think we're better of out of this for a couple of years at least.
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| Personally, I wouldn't rule anything either in or out. The SL clubs may well have decided amongst themselves the cash is better divided between 11 than 12 but Sky may beg to differ -paying pipers means calling the tune after all.
As for it being us, well I remember talking to a Fax supporting friend a few years back when they were looking good for promotion and he said " No, don't want promotion, it'll kill us, we're not ready". Even though the TV cash is much more now I tend to think the same for the Bulls, to be honest. We're just not ready.
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| There's a hull fan on the VT who said it might be us as the RFL own our ground. Ha ha ha how out touch are superleague glory supporters?
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| from speed with which Touluse produced their video Id say their a shoo in and have already agreed to the half funding. We cant be considered until we have ground situation sorted.
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| Not a fan of London going back up. They had their chance and they blew it. I actually think the championship is the perfect place for them to grow and nurture that young squad into something formidable. Jumping up to SL now would probably do them more harm than good.
Featherstone need to give up the ghost. That statement from Campbell actually contained some valid points - which were then completely ruined by him making an embarrassing comment in the last paragraph about Featherstone being the team who should go up
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Didn't I call this before? Typical self interest in maintaining the status quo and the same snouts at the trough:
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| The more we hear about what's on offer from SL, the more it looks like a poisoned chalice. We'd be mad to take it on under those conditions.
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| The money point of view is interesting. We’ve learnt our lesson and seem to be lean (in expenditure terms). At the moment we’re getting to spend approximately £500k on players off £300k of tv money. Now then, obviously costs go up when you go to full time but you would hope the number of spectators would go up as well. Any increase in central funding could go directly on the squad.
Point 2 - it’s all about the money, stupid.
I think more SL chairmen are beginning to realise they need our away fans bringing money to their clubs. That’ll be a point in our favour as well.
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| I always thought Toulouse should have been there before Catalan in the first place. They seemed to have big businesses on board and the transport links a more straight forward than they are to Perpignan. I think they can still scale quickly and there's a modest chance two top flight clubs might actually move their national team on from the joke they are now.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I always thought Toulouse should have been there before Catalan in the first place. They seemed to have big businesses on board and the transport links a more straight forward than they are to Perpignan. I think they can still scale quickly and there's a modest chance two top flight clubs might actually move their national team on from the joke they are now.'"
Isn't this a strong argument for a French SL?
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| Unsurprisingly we're applying for the 12th spot. Social media should be fun with Gledhill and his SL sources saying they definitely want Bradford in SL.
This is why I never ever want licensing to return. Should he decided on the field where no one can argue.
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| Just been mooted on the Virtual Terrace that Bulls are to be ushered in.
Agree with what you just posted Bull Mania.
Hope all on here are well.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Unsurprisingly we're applying for the 12th spot. Social media should be fun with Gledhill and his SL sources saying they definitely want Bradford in SL.
This is why I never ever want licensing to return. Should he decided on the field where no one can argue.'"
I agree with your last comment that is should of been decided on the field but championship sides was reluctant to come out of furlough and unstandably why,
but lets get a few thinks clear if it is both us and salford who are both on the lowest budgets that have been metioned they will of predicted spendage on the next season and taken that into account, while I'm not dispusting gledhill comment he's hardly got great feedback on here over the last few years, can I also just cast your mind back to when we entered super league we recieved nothing yes zilch so when you make comments about old school boys it does look rather silly.
anyway I wish all the best on the appliction but my thoughts of you returning to odsal would be the end of a great club it will bring you down again but it would be great to get old rivalries back
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Yeah I'm quite happy just continuing to build in the championship. Got some good kids coming through again who we're actually holding in to. In 2 years I think we will be ready to have a good crack at getting into SL. Never know, if things fall into place this year, we might even earn it on the field which is how it should be. There's not a Toronto, no one coming down and just one good team going up.
Toulouse or London for me. York can be an outstanding SL team, but like us probably best just continuing to build and be ready in a couple of years. Let's not forget they played 3 lost 3 earlier this year.'"
I agree re Toulouse. That would be fair. BUT I think the other 'big' clubs need the crowds that the Bulls will inevitably bring. Can't wait to see Bulls v Whinos at VP with half a dozen decent loanees from said clubs ?
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| Quote ="snowie"I agree with your last comment that is should of been decided on the field but championship sides was reluctant to come out of furlough and unstandably why,
but lets get a few thinks clear if it is both us and salford who are both on the lowest budgets that have been metioned they will of predicted spendage on the next season and taken that into account, while I'm not dispusting gledhill comment he's hardly got great feedback on here over the last few years, can I also just cast your mind back to when we entered super league we recieved nothing yes zilch so when you make comments about old school boys it does look rather silly.
anyway I wish all the best on the appliction but my thoughts of you returning to odsal would be the end of a great club it will bring you down again but it would be great to get old rivalries back'"
Just regarding Gledhill and his sources, my tongue was firmly in cheek. Most of us on here know 99%. Of what he says is made up or at the very least exaggerated.
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| I can see us invited here. Good away following and a squad on paper at current far weaker than say Leigh or Toulouse so even with a few additions from out of work Wolfpack players will be the proverbial lambs to the slaughter. Win win for some of the ‘lesser’ SL clubs, travelling away fans and a team that should finish below you and get relegated buying them another year of SL survival!
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| So if we start at a base level of having fans think we are already unduly favoured by the RFL (which we know is a load of balls but others believe it), then just imagine how popular we'd be to be parachuted into SL. And then because we got reduced money and are still playing out of a 19th century dickensian dump, we go bust again. We'd never recover from that.
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