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| Quote ="HamsterChops"So only Gledhill saw "supporters fighting" then. Even those stood right next to it didnt see any of that.
I think that maybe says it all.'"
was some shouting between fans but thats all.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"So only Gledhill saw "supporters fighting" then. Even those stood right next to it didnt see any of that.
I think that maybe says it all.'"
Yep, like Ricky I was stood about 20 feet from the incident, no fans got involved in fighting, that's completely made up. There was a lot of verbal but mostly directed at the s**thouse Morton who had plenty of time to not follow through with it, he knew exactly what he was doing and surely unsportsmanlike conduct should be punished whichever side of the white line it happens to be?
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"So only Gledhill saw "supporters fighting" then. Even those stood right next to it didnt see any of that.
I think that maybe says it all.'"
Mick also put on twitter that Walshaw should be imprisoned. Sadly he's one of the loudest bulls fans on spcial media so gets most exposure/replies from opposition fans and that comment just makes us and the actual incident look a joke. The incident was a serious one IMO but no one will take it seriously now because of comments like what Mick has put.
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| Quote ="bullpower2014"I did not go to yesterdays game, but listened to the BCB commentary. When Thomas got "pushed" behind the advertising boards, Mick Gledhill stated that not only where the players scrapping he alluded to that fans were involved too?? did I mis-hear that?!? is it true and if so...... surely there must be ramifications for whoever was involved
He also suggested that Toovey and Kelly also squared up during the same incident...
Anyone who went care to elaborate?'"
There was a heated exchange between Toovey and Kelly whigh was sorted out by having two extra stewards in the technical area.
I think when the RFL study the 26 man brawl they'll be repercussions for a number of players who decided to to take the law into their own hands.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Mick also put on twitter that Walshaw should be imprisoned. Sadly he's one of the loudest bulls fans on spcial media so gets most exposure/replies from opposition fans and that comment just makes us and the actual incident look a joke. The incident was a serious one IMO but no one will take it seriously now because of comments like what Mick has put.'"
You go visit Joe Keyes in hospital and tell him the incident was joke.
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| Quote ="debaser"I didn't see any fans involved, but it was right on the hoardings, so maybe someone in the crowd had a dig.
Some of the Dewsbury "tactics" yesterdays were disgusting. But then with a referee so far out of his depth, and two linesmen who clearly could not see, they got away with it, so fair dos.
I absolutely thought Scott Moore was going to chin the ref at one point, the way he was looking at him whilst he lectured him about why it was a penalty to Dewsbury for them punching our player...'"
That was the most bizarre referee performance I've ever seen.
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| So Mick, are you not commenting on the fact you said on live radio that supporters were scrapping, when they apparently weren't?
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| Have I got this right...
Bulls fan tweets bulls fans fighting.
Turns out from posts on here by fans at the game that isn't the case.
Not the first time he has publicly posted inaccuracies regarding the Bulls.
And yet the club and fans are ok with this??????
Bizarre
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"So Mick, are you not commenting on the fact you said on live radio that supporters were scrapping, when they apparently weren't?'"
Just listened back to what I said and for your pathetic benefit I said:
"Speakman will pepper one between Caro and Thomas on the last."
"Thomas is going to caught and trapped in goal."
"Oooooooooooh Oscar Thomas is trying to be pushed over the advertisement hordings right down in front of the main stand where the fans are involved."
If you care that much about what's going on, may I suggest stop watching films and attending games.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Have I got this right...
Bulls fan tweets bulls fans fighting.
Turns out from posts on here by fans at the game that isn't the case.
Not the first time he has publicly posted inaccuracies regarding the Bulls.
And yet the club and fans are ok with this??????
Bizarre'"
Well whichever Bulls fans are tweeting about Bulls fans fighting are wrong.
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| How the ref and the linesmen missed the assault on Keyes is baffling.
It's stuff like that that makes you question the impartiality of the officials sometimes. Because it's beyond incompetence surely? It was about 5 metres in front of the linesman.
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| Quote ="debaser"How the ref and the linesmen missed the assault on Keyes is baffling.
It's stuff like that that makes you question the impartiality of the officials sometimes. Because it's beyond incompetence surely? It was about 5 metres in front of the linesman.'"
Listen to the Ross Peltier interview - he says the referee saw it and deemed it fair contact. Madness.
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| Does anyone know how Joe Keyes is now, Looked bad when he left the field,
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"Does anyone know how Joe Keyes is now, Looked bad when he left the field,'"
Was still in hospital when I spoke to his dad last night.
Apparently the poor lad was constantly throwing up in the dressing room, so the ambulance came for him.
Some Bulls supporters on here seem to think that the tackle was ok, but after having seen it on the slow-mo my opinion is that it was horrendous, premeditated and one of the worst I've seen live for a long time.
If the referee had actually seen the incident - Walshaw would see red and we would be playing against 12 men for the last 29 minutes, trailing 20-12.
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| Quote ="debaser"How the ref and the linesmen missed the assault on Keyes is baffling.
It's stuff like that that makes you question the impartiality of the officials sometimes. Because it's beyond incompetence surely? It was about 5 metres in front of the linesman.'"
P.S. I'm glad someone other than myself is using the word assault.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Was still in hospital when I spoke to his dad last night.
Apparently the poor lad was constantly throwing up in the dressing room, so the ambulance came for him.
Some Bulls supporters on here seem to think that the tackle was ok, but after having seen it on the slow-mo my opinion is that it was horrendous, premeditated and one of the worst I've seen live for a long time.
If the referee had actually seen the incident - Walshaw would see red and we would be playing against 12 men for the last 29 minutes, trailing 20-12.'"
Would of been a game changer to help us but it ended up been a game charger and we had no subs left. Totally rubbish refing
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| Seems to recall Walshaw was guilty of a cheap shot at the fixture at Odsal too. Perhaps that's something he's brought into his game, I guess he needed something because he was completely forgettable during his time in a Bulls shirt.
I am fed up of reading about how poor refs are costing us games though. We know the refs are crap at this level and a lot of nasty stuff goes unpunished. If we can't beat them, perhaps we need to join them and try and recruit a few nasty forwards that you need at this level.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You go visit Joe Keyes in hospital and tell him the incident was joke.'"
I definitely don't think it was a joke. It was a shocker and the ref and in particular the arrogant linesman should be made accountable and hauled over hot coals for apparently thinking it was fine. It was a disgrace and as i said before, the tactics Dewsbury did and the officials allowing it, i fell out of love with RL. Not good when someone sees their son taken out like that and put in hospital and goes completely unpunsihed.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Seems to recall Walshaw was guilty of a cheap shot at the fixture at Odsal too. Perhaps that's something he's brought into his game, I guess he needed something because he was completely forgettable during his time in a Bulls shirt.
I am fed up of reading about how poor refs are costing us games though. We know the refs are crap at this level and a lot of nasty stuff goes unpunished. If we can't beat them, perhaps we need to join them and try and recruit a few nasty forwards that you need at this level.'"
Even with the bizarre performance from the referee, we dropped the ball 11 times during the game. Architects of our own downfall, I'm afraid.
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| From memory, it doesn't have to put on report by the ref to be looked at by the disciplinary. The match commissioner can include it in his report I think. And the coaches can ask for it to be looked at. But it doesn't help us unfortunately.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Was still in hospital when I spoke to his dad last night.
Apparently the poor lad was constantly throwing up in the dressing room, so the ambulance came for him.
Some Bulls supporters on here seem to think that the tackle was ok, but after having seen it on the slow-mo my opinion is that it was horrendous, premeditated and one of the worst I've seen live for a long time.
If the referee had actually seen the incident - Walshaw would see red and we would be playing against 12 men for the last 29 minutes, trailing 20-12.'"
Thanks Mick,
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Just listened back to what I said and for your pathetic benefit I said:
"Speakman will pepper one between Caro and Thomas on the last."
"Thomas is going to caught and trapped in goal."
"Oooooooooooh Oscar Thomas is trying to be pushed over the advertisement hordings right down in front of the main stand where the fans are involved."
If you care that much about what's going on, may I suggest stop watching films and attending games.'"
You said the fans were involved. Perhaps it's a case of people misinterpreting it, perhaps it's a case of you backtracking on something you got wrong. I didn't hear it, so I can't say which, so I'll leave it there.
As far as attending games, I've made my feelings clear. Until the owners start treating the fans like people instead of cash cows, I will be staying away.
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| Likewise, I was stood bang in front of the incident with Thomas. Tackle was complete so Thomas and the other tackler relaxed before Morton seemed to flip out with the extra push and throw into the barrier. Thomas reacted and players piled in.
Fans all around the incident shouted but no fighting took place between the fans. Funnily enough a female dewsbury fan shouted at some bulls fans for bad language in front of children (bulls fans) but seemed oblivious to fellow dewsbury fans shouting the odds and swearing. Some bulls fans pointed this out, some more shouting and then it settled down. Certainly no fighting and stewards were in the corner watching the whole scene.
Keyes one looked bad but opposite end of the field so it's harder to comment on, although you clearly don't knock yourself unconscious!
Injuries didn't help but we lost that game ourselves by dropping too much ball, weak tackling and being lazy. 70% of the KR performance would have got us the points but nope we are staring relegation square in the face.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I am fed up of reading about how poor refs are costing us games though..'"
To be fair, I haven't seen many saying the ref cost them the game. More that the referee was bloody awful and the team were just as bad.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"To be fair, I haven't seen many saying the ref cost them the game. More that the referee was bloody awful and the team were just as bad.'"
Sorry I should probably have been a bit clearer, it was more aimed at Bulls fans on social media than on here.
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