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| I'd wait until we have two halfbacks on the pitch before judging. At the minute he's having to provide practically all of our attacking creativity, which can't be easy.
Having said that, he still set up at least two of our 4 tries today, which is good enough for me.
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| Apart from Mackay, we've had problems getting distance on kicks for touch for as many years as I can remember. Back in the early days of SL IIRC we had Sprogger trying it at one point because Macca was struggling to make the distance?
I suspect Herbert comes a lot cheaper than his predecessors, and its still only early days. And of course we've not had a settled HB combination yet!! He's done some good stuff, including today, and I fear he is falling victim to over-expectations on the part of many fans?
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| Eight games in , of which he's played... ? Still, pile in one and all, important that the players know we're right behind them just as long as they are an instant undoubted success...
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| Give the guy a chance, he's hardly played an rugby recently and for me he seems to be getting more involved each game. As for him not making much distance when kicking to touch, at least he makes touch unlike half our kicks last year!
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| Herbert is improving game on game. Like It's been said before, he's travelled half way around the world, picked up an injury and is part of a team thats changed so much. I think he'll go ok, not a world class player but not a bad one. About right for our squad at the minute.
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| You all wish we had Orford back then His pass to sykes was a blinder give the lad a chance as always we think every aussie we sign will be a Thurston or a Lockyer get in the real world.
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| Quote ="af"Eight games in , of which he's played... ? Still, pile in one and all, important that the players know we're right behind them just as long as they are an instant undoubted success...'"
Game number four today.
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| Quote ="af"Eight games in , of which he's played... ? Still, pile in one and all, important that the players know we're right behind them just as long as they are an instant undoubted success...'"
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| Quote ="fat bull slim"You all wish we had Orford back then
His pass to sykes was a blinder give the lad a chance as always we think every aussie we sign will be a Thurston or a Lockyer get in the real world.'"
Concur.
How long did it take young guys like Withers or Hape to come into their own? When both started, the comments were "looks sort of OK, but nothing startling" IIRC? Remind me again how they turned out?
Powder needs keeping dry for a while yet guys, I suggest?
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| Get a grip. You're upset because he doesn't get 50 metres per penalty, but Deacon was accused of exactly the same.
He's improving game on game and costs a quarter of what Orford did. A much more effective use of money is to try an untested Aussie (or 3) until you find the right one. If he doesn't improve he's on a one year contract.
Another "struggling" half back to move to Super League from Canberra was Michael Dobson. You do the math.
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| Poor in the NRL, poor in the Pre season, poor when it matters. A poor half back.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Poor in the NRL, poor in the Pre season, poor when it matters. A poor half back.'"
Come on Mick at least give the lad a chance.
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| You can't stop an idiot when he's made up his mind.
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| Actually, on reflection I hope we DID get a receipt for Herbert.
Because I have a feeling that, in due course, we may be able to take great delight in pinning it to the wall and showing the world what a good piece of business we did.
And even if not...well Mr "feebleweasel" talks a whole lot of total sense above.
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| for me like ive said before if briggs and him play he will be alot better. hes struggling on his own and kearney isnt a stand off although hes played well there he isnt a recognised half back unlike briggs. Briggs also kicks further than 10 yards
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Come on Mick at least give the lad a chance.'"
He'll get plenty Mick, but he's poor. It's there for all to see.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"He'll get plenty Mick, but he's poor. It's there for all to see.'"
Give the lad a chance. The team is changing every week at the moment so thats not going to help him. Briggs with him in the halfs like ive said before would improve him
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| Quote ="Bulls1989"Give the lad a chance. The team is changing every week at the moment so thats not going to help him. Briggs with him in the halfs like ive said before would improve him'"
Why dont we give every other poor half back in the world whilst we are at it then yeah?
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| Mike, on this occasion I cannot agree with you.
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| he hasnt had a settled partner and kearney clearly isnt a stand off. So until him and briggs play together i disagree
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Why dont we give every other poor half back in the world whilst we are at it then yeah?'"
I also seem to recall you telling anyone who would listen what a very average hooker we had signed in Heath L'Estrange when we first announced his signature.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I also seem to recall you telling anyone who would listen what a very average hooker we had signed in Heath L'Estrange when we first announced his signature.'"
Exactly. Clueless
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| Just watched the highlights of todays game just watched the pass from Herbert to put Sykes over.
Bloody fantastic stuff and once he gets the confidence to take the line on himself in those situations then we could have a real winner.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Mike, on this occasion I cannot agree with you.'"
I'm not as anti Herbert as our Michael but i do see where he is coming from IMO Herbert is a 13.
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| does anyone know why on earth we are week on week missing briggs out when it was quite clear he was the man who got us running great lines vs leeds?
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