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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"But this is what we need a fight for places, and with our luck in the injury dept. it may be needed - id rather have too many players than not enough
Left wing: Raynor and Lulia - Right wing: Ainscough and Ah Van
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I only put Ah van in at centre as i believe he has the power to braek tackles and draw in players to then offload to the winger, IMO he is not fast enough for the wing.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"So for next year on quotas. Jeffries and Royston do NOT count on quota.
1. Kearney
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4. Lulia'"
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Quote A Cook Islands international, Lulia would be eligible to play in the English Super League as a non-overseas player.
Super League clubs are allowed five foreign imports, but the Cotonou Agreement, by which various African, Caribbean and Pacific nations have the same right to freedom of work and movement as European Union citizens, is a loophole that some choose to exploit.
Signatories to the agreement include the Cook Islands, Tonga, Fiji, Papua New Guinea and Samoa.'"
Dunno if its true, but hopefully this keeps an overseas spot free for someone else
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"As from another post it appears Lulia does not take an overseas quota spot !!!'"
he doesnt take an overseas spot but he does take a non fed trained spot. effectively he uses up a quota spot.
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| you have brought in a 9 who was has been average for a number of years including over here when you have houghton. And dont use the mickey mouse call up for the ANZAC test the guy has mediocre written all over him, cannot even claim potential! you also signed phelps did you not. dykes im sure he played for you. matthew head? get out of here troll.
Ill also leave it to Mick Potter to comment on Briggs potential and not some fc clown. hows will sharp doing brainbox?
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| if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota
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| Quote ="slideby"you have brought in a 9 who was has been average for a number of years including over here when you have houghton. And dont use the mickey mouse call up for the ANZAC test the guy has mediocre written all over him, cannot even claim potential! you also signed phelps did you not. dykes im sure he played for you. matthew head? get out of here troll.
Ill also leave it to Mick Potter to comment on Briggs potential and not some fc clown. hows will sharp doing brainbox?'"
leave it theres no point wasting time mate .
they sign westerman and sharp because they cant produce their own young players
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota'"
no we cant. have a look at post I made on page 2 of this thread for a breakdown of how our quota and non fed trained spots are filled.
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"leave it theres no point wasting time mate .
they sign westerman and sharp because they cant produce their own young players'"
Oh yeah Sharp world class signing right there
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| Quote "It's not about bringing in zero overseas players, players who bring something to our game e.g. The players who played in the International origin game - we had 3 of our overseas players, what about you? You brought in Ben Jefferies this year and he and Marc Herbert are occupying your halves AFAIK while promising young English players such as Kyle Briggs are shipped off. Ben Jefferies who is proven not to be good enough is brought in, so short sighted by Bradford."'"
Doesn't matter how good your overseas players are if your not brining any juniors thorugh, which for some reason Hull aren't. Bradford are bringing just as many juniors through as any other club, we don't have any more overseas players than anyone else.
Will our new signing be the next Hape, or a flop. Who knows, ALL signings are gambles. I would say the signs are good as he is young, big and looks to have a superb attitude. He isn't holding a youngster back as we don't really have any youngsters coming through in that position.
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| Quote ="mat"no we cant. have a look at post I made on page 2 of this thread for a breakdown of how our quota and non fed trained spots are filled.'"
whos on the non fed trained?
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Oh yeah Sharp world class signing right there
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sharp is the best winger in the game what are you laughing about ?
heck nrl teams were queing up to sign him...but no hull beat them all of to get his prized signature.
well done , must have been to learn from the master coach that is richard agar
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"whos on the non fed trained?'"
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota'"
Fiddle you have only one less overseas players as us?.
Difference is that we have better quality imports than you, which can be seem from the Exiles game, in which we had 3 starting.
Also we had one youngster we have brought through in the England squad.
2 players in the under 18's squad and 5 in the England under 16's team.
Hull IMO have 2 imports that are poor in Phelps and Lauaki, Obst is Ok the other 4 are top quality.
Bradford have 2 quality imports in L'Estrange and Kearney, the rest are average.
I have been impressed with some of the early signs of the Bradford youngsters, be interesting if they would get a game if all your players are fit.
One thing I do agree on is thats that Heremaia is a pointless signing for Hull, unless we release Obst.
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| Quote ="mat"kearney
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And Herbert (if re-signed)
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota'"
What nationality are Danny Houghton, Joe Westerman, Danny Tickle, Ewan Dowes and Lee Radford?
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Oh yeah Sharp world class signing right there
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All this and we're still above you in the table. What does it say about you?
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"right and you brought in sam obst LOL
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2 absolute awful players so ye i woudl think bout stuff beofre you start arguing.
you have so many overseas players its unbelievable..and yes you brought through houghton......you did what warrington do buy buying westerman because your younger players just arent coming through'"
When we signed Obst, the Wakefield fans were gutted they lost him instead of Jefferies - Obst isn't an amazing signing but he's better than Ben Jefferies. Similarly Phelps, he isn't amazing but at least he got a game in the NRL and the SL Champions whereas Shad Royston could only get a game in the the Championship until you signed him.
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| Wonder where he stands on the 'mince-o-meter'? and how long it will take him to get on it - about half a game?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"All this and we're still above you in the table. What does it say about you?
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Yes above us in the table by 1 whole point - what does this say about you ??
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Yes above us in the table by 1 whole point - what does this say about you ??'"
We have a terrible coach.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"We have a terrible coach.'"
But as most of you FC fans are stating your squad is alot better than ours, so regardless of your coach, if you players are much better then why only the 1 ahead of us ??
PS. Your points diff doesnt mean you are good at attacking just means we have been very poor defensively - but that being said your results arnt much better than ours based on pionts, so how do you establish that your team is better ??
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"But as most of you FC fans are stating your squad is alot better than ours, so regardless of your coach, if you players are much better then why only the 1 ahead of us ??
PS. Your points diff doesnt mean you are good at attacking just means we have been very poor defensively - but that being said your results arnt much better than ours based on pionts, so how do you establish that your team is better ??
Or is that just your OPINION'"
Ofcourse it is my opinion . However, it is backed up by a few facts. We have scored my points than you. FACT. We have conceded less points than you. FACT. We have more competition points than you. FACT. It is the opinion of others that our overseas players are of a greater calibre than yours. FACT.
On paper, our team is so much better than yours. That is my opinion. Do you not feel the head coach makes much difference?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"On paper, our team is so much better than yours. That is my opinion. Do you not feel the head coach makes much difference?'"
Im not saying they dont make a difference when clearly they do, not aiming this at yourself as i know a few FC who want Agars head and their decision will not change however, there is alot of fickle FC fans who want him out one minute then when you have afew wins they say well maybe he should be given another go.....................
But mainly i believe (which is just my opinion) that it is down to the players and their attitude to the game, because once they are out on the park if they revert from the game plan there isnt much the coach can do !!!
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW" It is the opinion of others that our overseas players are of a greater calibre than yours. FACT. '"
that's ace!
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