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| I like to see one of Castleford's conversions again too, I could have sworn it missed.
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| Quote ="bullsfan4ever"There's only so much a coach can do. Most of his work is done off the pitch and he put a team out there who built up a 16-point lead. There was only a 2-minute gap before they scored again, what miracle could he have performed in that time? These are professional rugby players after all. They blew it, not him.'"
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| Despite the attempt at positive spin from the McNamara appologists on here there is still the fact that we're one win (a win we might not have got if not for a VR) from 6 games. That's nearly a quarter of the season gone and we're way off pace to even make the play-offs. As far as I can see, there's enough skill in the squad to make our current league position questionable. We are not a bad side though we do have weak spots, mainly in the back line, but even so I think the team are still using tactics from 2003.
We don't have 2 extra forwards mascarading as wingers any more. We've got a couple of wingers who've got a bit of pace, so what's wrong with a suprise early kick in the tackle count for them to chase? It's unlikely as Deacon is set in his ways and will give the same kick every time and always on the 5th tackle. You watch any defence against Bradford and 5th tackle theres always someone ready to go for Deacs. Which raises it's own tactical questions. If we've got someone coming out of the line to go for the kicker then there's a gap. What's wrong with faking the pass to Deacon and trying to cut thru towards the try line? Or am I being really naive in thinking that doing something unexpected might get you a try?
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach
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| I'm a different kind of disappointed tonight. Not disappointed at the poor performance because it was far from that. It was an excellent performance, by both teams. We were, to some extent the better team, I'm still wondering how we lost. A bit more composure, a bit more luck, some decisions going in our favour and we would have won. But hey, fair play to Cas, they took their chances well, when they were given them.
We looked like a team today though and that bodes well.
Newton, Platt and Morrison all outstanding and Menzies showed his class. It also looked like the others are beginning to read him a bit more.
I'm feeling fairly posititive tonight.
We are improving every game.
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| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/4244182.Bulls_impress_before_rot_sets_in/T&A: Bulls impress before rot sets in[/url
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| Quote ="invmatt"The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall
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Only just legal, deacon being bent down made sure of that but Shentons arm was close to being an elbow regardless though!!
However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set. It put us on the back foot, I was with a lot of Cas fans who were saying the same that without that incident they don't think they'd have won. Sykes needs to work on his kicking though.
Ryan McGoldrick should be banned, squaring up to the linesman and having his fingers pointed at his own eyes and then at the linesmans and mouthing off like he did was disgraceful behaviour.
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| The teams from wakefield are doing well long may it last
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| Quote ="debaser"I like to see one of Castleford's conversions again too, I could have sworn it missed.'"
The game against Giants our conversion went over but it wasn't given. Class it as karma.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Despite the attempt at positive spin from the McNamara appologists on here there is still the fact that we're one win (a win we might not have got if not for a VR) from 6 games. That's nearly a quarter of the season gone and we're way off pace to even make the play-offs. As far as I can see, there's enough skill in the squad to make our current league position questionable. We are not a bad side though we do have weak spots, mainly in the back line, but even so I think the team are still using tactics from 2003.
We don't have 2 extra forwards mascarading as wingers any more. We've got a couple of wingers who've got a bit of pace, so what's wrong with a suprise early kick in the tackle count for them to chase? It's unlikely as Deacon is set in his ways and will give the same kick every time and always on the 5th tackle. You watch any defence against Bradford and 5th tackle theres always someone ready to go for Deacs. Which raises it's own tactical questions. If we've got someone coming out of the line to go for the kicker then there's a gap. What's wrong with faking the pass to Deacon and trying to cut thru towards the try line? Or am I being really naive in thinking that doing something unexpected might get you a try?
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach'" By eck don't sit on the fence.
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| Quote ="debaser"I'm a different kind of disappointed tonight. Not disappointed at the poor performance because it was far from that. It was an excellent performance, by both teams. We were, to some extent the better team, I'm still wondering how we lost. A bit more composure, a bit more luck, some decisions going in our favour and we would have won. But hey, fair play to Cas, they took their chances well, when they were given them.
We looked like a team today though and that bodes well.
Newton, Platt and Morrison all outstanding and Menzies showed his class. It also looked like the others are beginning to read him a bit more.
I'm feeling fairly posititive tonight.
We are improving every game.'"
thats the point that a lot of the armchair fans are missing. whether we're going to improve enough fast enough is another matter
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| Well Done Cas
See you at Odsal on Good Friday Folks.
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| Quote ="mat"thats the point that a lot of the armchair fans are missing. whether we're going to improve enough fast enough is another matter'" Sorry but professional sport is all about results and ours aren't good enough.
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| Quote ="Liane"However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set.'"
And your try under the posts in the first half should have been scrubbed off after one of your men obstructed the defenders. Works both ways.
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| Quote ="Liane"Only just legal, deacon being bent down made sure of that but Shentons arm was close to being an elbow regardless though!!
However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set. It put us on the back foot, I was with a lot of Cas fans who were saying the same that without that incident they don't think they'd have won. Sykes needs to work on his kicking though.
Ryan McGoldrick should be banned, squaring up to the linesman and having his fingers pointed at his own eyes and then at the linesmans and mouthing off like he did was disgraceful behaviour.'"
That's what I posted earlier, that was the turning point of the game and after that it was downhill, I don't mind losing but when a bad decision turns a game it leaves me feeling very bitter
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| Quote ="-Beth-"And your try under the posts in the first half should have been scrubbed off after one of your men obstructed the defenders. Works both ways.'"
You did exactly the same thing up the other end twice in the first half, once it led to a try.
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| Great game, really enjoyed it. Shame our composure went out of the window but that's the sort of Cas finish I'm used to so I wasn't in the slightest bit surprised.
Did anyone notice what a monster Feather has turned into? I had to ask some lads in the pub after the game who he was. They showed me the programme and he's put on a shed load of timber and ran it in hard every time. Good luck to the bloke - I hope his string of freakish injuries are behind him.
Anyone have an opinion on the two incidents where Cas players were put on report? From where I was I couldn't really tell what they were for.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach'"
Tactically, what parts of today did you find inept?
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"Did anyone notice what a monster Feather has turned into? I had to ask some lads in the pub after the game who he was. They showed me the programme and he's put on a shed load of timber and ran it in hard every time. Good luck to the bloke - I hope his string of freakish injuries are behind him.
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I'm not surprised he is doing well, he had some good games for the Bulls. The key for Cas is whether they can keep him off the treatment table, hope they can because he deserves some luck.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Tactically, what parts of today did you find inept?'"
I'd been wondering the same...
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Dissappointed, hard not to be. We outplayed Cas for about 60-70 minutes of the game, then we totally blew it and Cas put in 10 minutes of world class performance. Platt had a really good game, looked solid in defence and under the high ball, good in attack aswell. Deacon was bad again, he shouldn't be starting next week. Jeffries looked ok again, but made quite a few errors. TBH I thought our centres looked quite good for a change, I think Sykes plays better when he is given the kicking responsibility. Think Halley should start instead of Sheriffe next week. Thought Langers was pretty poor aswell, but good from most of the pack especially Lynch, Burgess, Scruton and Morro. Newton looked good aswell.'"
Did you actually go today mate? Langely was in everything. A few daft missed shoulder charges, but other than those he was good.
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| Quote ="invmatt"The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall
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As a Bull I totally agree, it was a hospital pass, the person that shold be getting the blame is the boy who passed it to Deacon.
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| Quote ="mat"thats the point that a lot of the armchair fans are missing. whether we're going to improve enough fast enough is another matter'"
The people that do go will realise that we are definatley NOT improving. We are getting worse as weeks go by.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Sorry but professional sport is all about results... '"
No. It's actually not. If RL were all about results, I'd have stopped watching it decades ago. In the case of rugby league, you couldn't be more wrong. You'd be happy to watch a team win 20 on the trot 2-0?
Quote ="redeverready"ours aren't good enough.'"
Wow, controversial, or what? What, are there people somewhere who would say our results "are" good enough?
Where do you get these gems from?
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| I kind of disagree with the 'performance' argument and I very much disagree with the Barrie McDermottism of rugby league being a performance based sport. Whilst it is important to perform well on a consistent basis, in my opinion it is a whole lot more important to get the correct result. For myself, results matter far more than performances
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No. It's actually not. If RL were all about results, I'd have stopped watching it decades ago. In the case of rugby league, you couldn't be more wrong. You'd be happy to watch a team win 20 on the trot 2-0?'" Yes and I bet Peter Hood would be too.
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Wow, controversial, or what?
What, are there people somewhere who would say our results "are" good enough?
Where do you get these gems from?'" What are you on about.
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