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| Prop/Loose forward Josh Bowden has joined on dual registration and is in the squad for Sunday.
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Good signing, but I can see it now, Leigh lose a centre for the season and Dawson asks to be released from his contract, and we allow it,,,, again'"
Not really a , out and out winger from his time at Leigh- very good one mind, not the fastest but works hard for the team. Great finisher and makes plenty of yards taking pressure off forwards at the PTB
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| NOt actually players (and I may have missed it ) but who is taking over from Sawyer and Perez who were supposedly short term placements?
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| As I understand it sawyer is longer term than Perez where as Perez is choking in feb sawyer dosent have a set date
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| So, will the much talked about influx from a SL team in January, mentioned as Leeds, happen this week? If I recall in 2017 they came in the week The season started but to be fair that was only about 4 weeks after we re-formed. Let’s see what happens
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| Well, it all depends on whether the DR with Hull has changed the equation. We're allowed 5 loan players total in the game day squad. We've 2 from HKR. So we've 3 slots left. I would guess maybe 1 from Leeds maximum, season long loan for stability would be best. A succession of short loans seems pointless. Which leaves 2 slots for Hull to use for the DR. Being sent those 4 players last week vs Dewsbury didn't work. The big prop went well for us yesterday I thought.
Unless the Leeds connection isn't needed now and we're just going to focus on the Hull D/R.
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| Well looking at the Bulls homepage we've only got 19 1st team players.
Yes, there are lads in the reserves with 1st team numbers, but I don't see anything but a season of struggle unless we're able to bring in some extra bodies through what ever means
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| Quote ="Highlander"W Being sent those 4 players last week vs Dewsbury didn't work. The big prop went well for us yesterday I thought. .'"
That was Josh Bowden - who according to Wikipedia - has played 146 games in SL for Hull. I agree that makes him a heck of lot more useful than some kid that we've never heard of before. We might as play Ebon Scurr or Keelan Foster than play Hull youngsters who frankly aren't probably any 'further on' in their development than those who came up through our own Academy.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Well looking at the Bulls homepage we've only got 19 1st team players.
Yes, there are lads in the reserves with 1st team numbers, but I don't see anything but a season of struggle unless we're able to bring in some extra bodies through what ever means'"
It's missing Matty Dawson-Jones which would bring it up to 20. But even a couple of those first team players are highly inexperienced.
To be honest, I guess this is the bed you lay in when you've had years of not paying people on time and swindling them out of their pension payments (erm... allegedly). You can have as many "new" owners as you like, but when the previous 3 or 4 have been dodgier than Del Boy, I'm not sure I'd gamble my family's future if I had other options. Add in that they're recruiting late because they had to have a fire sale to pay the debts and you're pretty stuffed on every side.
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| Sounds like Evans is coming back to us but quoted as a one month loan. I’m not sure how Leeds can loan us back a player for a month that we loaned them for a season but either way nice to have another quality centre.
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| Quote ="Bulls4"Sounds like Evans is coming back to us but quoted as a one month loan. I’m not sure how Leeds can loan us back a player for a month that we loaned them for a season but either way nice to have another quality centre.'"
wonder what situation is with Evans regarding the 5 loan players we're allowed to play in matchday squad. As he's technically still our player would he count on that quota or not?.
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| Signed a permanent deal with l***s now back to us on a season long loan.
One of the most confusing transfer sagas i can remember.
Eaither way great to have him back. Will come straight in for Brown id imagine. Without a doubt makes that right hand side much stronger
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| Yes Pleased with that, we needed some more experience in what I feel is a very young side.
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| Unless Leeds are paying him as a massive favour to us, this makes no sense at all?
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| they have just got a Wigan player on loan might have something to do with it
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| Interesting we now have 3 loan players, meaning we can only add 2 more per week from Hull if and when we need to.
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| Quote ="Frank Whitcombe"Unless Leeds are paying him as a massive favour to us, this makes no sense at all?
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It seems like it makes us worse off - because we now have to use a loan slot for someone who was our players before this saga...
I'm guessing it has something to do with who is paying is wages at the moment.
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| Leeds sign him then lend him out to us for a year leeds have more money than sense
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| Beyond weird, imo.
I'm sure there must be something behind all the shenanigans, Leeds having cap problems maybe? I realise that we're in the middle of one of the really pally periods with Leeds but it beggars belief they'd do us, what on the surface must be quite a costly favour, without some kind of 'pay-off' which benefits them. Why would they?
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| Well the finer detail seems to have changed a bit since I posted this morning. Leeds sign Evans permanently and loan him to us for the season. I can’t decide if it hinders us by taking away a loan spot on a player we started the year with or if it helps us if Leeds are paying his wages for us now.
I can’t see it being done out of kindness from Leeds and I expect to soon see Leeds announcing Doyle for next year or someone else promising.
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Well, again, it's one of those occasions where the supporters haven't been told the truth
All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.
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Well, again, it's one of those occasions where the supporters haven't been told the truth
All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.
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Quote ="paulwalker71"Well, again, it's one of those occasions where the supporters haven't been told the truth
All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.'"
Sounds similar to the Briscoe movements - player signs on loan from Champ club to Leeds, shortly after signs permanent contract but is then loaned (DRd) back to Champ club....
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Quote ="paulwalker71"Well, again, it's one of those occasions where the supporters haven't been told the truth
All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.'"
Sounds similar to the Briscoe movements - player signs on loan from Champ club to Leeds, shortly after signs permanent contract but is then loaned (DRd) back to Champ club....
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Quote ="paulwalker71"Well, again, it's one of those occasions where the supporters haven't been told the truth
All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.'"
Rhys Evans did sign on loan for Leeds. I believe they only signed him recently so they could loan him out to keep him match fit. Bulls were given first offer on him.
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All the news outlets were reporting that Evans had gone on loan to Leeds. For example
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... elp-bulls/
Now we are told that it was a permanent deal, and therefore he can be loaned back to us. Obviously if it wasn't a permanent deal there would be no need for a loan from Leeds - he would just be sent back here to see out his contract.
I'm not saying it is on a Marc Green-level so far as untruths, but once again we aren't being told the full story.'"
Rhys Evans did sign on loan for Leeds. I believe they only signed him recently so they could loan him out to keep him match fit. Bulls were given first offer on him.
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| Quote ="bulls2487"Rhys Evans did sign on loan for Leeds. I believe they only signed him recently so they could loan him out to keep him match fit. Bulls were given first offer on him.'"
Spot on mate. I thought it was pretty clear as well.
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| Maybe our use of his services this season was the transfer fee?
He was out of contract at the end of the season, and his contract had the usual 'if an SL club comes in etc' so, on that basis, it was probably the best outcome for us? I know we had to allow him to leave but no-one said we had to allow him to go for nothing.
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