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lol, it was. Typo.

Nail and head. I sense several people are just looking for the next scapegoat. Herbert basically won us the match yesterday with 2 sublime passes, and is doing more than enough to justify being at 7. Some people really do have unreasonable expectations, and these invariably co-incide with a myopia as to the excellent contributions the targeted player [idoes[/i make.

The lad at Catalans has settled very well in a quick time.

..into a team that is largely unchanged.

At the beginning of his time there they thought they'd got a turkey. Some were calling him Sean Rudder Mk 2

I think some are jumping on Herbert's back a bit too soon. He's making steady progress IMO.

We don't need a new one. Sykes is still at our club.

and add to that the only change to their playmaking positions (1,6,7,9,13) was introduction of dureaux and hendo as bench hooker. We've changed both halves and a hooking spot and been unable to field the same team consistently due to injuries. Hardly ideal cicumstances to bring a new half into. Its not just herbert that has to adjust. everyone around him has to learn how he plays too and put themselves in the correct positions to take his offloads etc.

3rd in list for assists in SL. 8 in 5 games. Not bad for someone new to the side.

Indeed. Another inconvenient truth.

Not at all bad for someone who isn't pulling his weight according to some! Especially more when you compare him to Deacon who is playing in the champion team,

Deacon - 4 Apps - 0 Tries - 2 Assists - 51m Gained - 23 Carries - 47 Tackles
Herbert - 5 Apps - 1 Try - 8 Assists - 246m Gained - 71 Carries - 127 - Tackles

Before checking this I didn't even realise his tackle amount, averaging 25 tackles a game

.....thats some stat for a s/h

Can we stop putting all these stats up that confirm the truth and that people have common sense!

Herbert is rubbish.. appparently..



Some Bulls fans are only happy when they've something to moan about.

Almost matches Deacon's 2009 23 appearance contribution already. Still Herbert is not organising.

I noticed. In fact I mentioned at the game on Sunday that Quins at one point seemed to be targetting him in defence, and that's a mistake. He's a solid defender and doesn't seem to miss many. In fact with his size and defensive ability, I don't think he'd be lost in the loose forward role if we were ever desperate.

Well, at least no one's given the coach ten games to improve as yet

Suspect it might not be long

If that was aimed at me in any way I can assure you that you could not be further from being correct if you tried. Despite his surname, Potter is no magician. He came along and had a MASSIVE job to do and there is no way that he is going to get it right so soon. We are a team in transition, therefore we will generally be inconsistent, get some good wins, suffer some heavy defeats. That is how it goes.

So far we are exactly where I expected us to be. We have lost to Leeds, Wigans, Saints and Huddersfield, all teams expected to finish higher than us but on the flip side we have beaten the sides we need to beat in order to be getting into the play-offs. We are the only side to beat the surprise package of Castleford, beat a Quins team that although are out of form have already away to Leeds and Saints this year and had a couple of comfortable wins against the Welsh and Wakefield.

All done despite the loss of key players and an ever growing injury list that includes/has included Raynor, Walker, Langley, LeStrange, Scruton, Addy, Platt, Briggs and Herbert. It is hard enough trying to get a completely new side to gel together without it being decimated by injuries.

The problems have been caused over the last couple of years. Potter deserves some time to get things right and I will be 100% behind him and his players. However, if other people want to complain then it is entirely their right to do so. As i have always stated in the past, a supporter of a side does not always have to 100% back a team, its coach or it's performances. If things ain't going well then I believe people should voice their anger. Blindly following and accepting is pointless and pathetic.

agree with that and I would add that the games we have won by 2 points were the kind of games we were losing under McNamara. there's a bit of steel in us this year, just a bit more polish to go.

Hmmm. [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=19&t=489274&start=22You wanna make your mind up?[/url

I'm not making any decisions on any players, new or otherwise, in this team for a good while yet.

To be honest, I think if we're in the playoffs come seasons end it will be a remarkable achievement taking into account not only the number of changes, but also the injuries we've been hit with.

As I said on Sunday, it's going to be hard for the team to gel when there's no consistancy.

At least someone bit I was starting to become a little disappointed I didn't get a reaction in the other topic

Wasn't aimed at any specific individual. Also, if anyone were to go back through my posts over the years I don't think you'll find anywhere where I have said people have no right to comment. I've certainly disagreed with comments that have been made, and I've said that some comments aren't helpful to the club which the writers actually follow, but that ain't the same, is it?

Aye right.

Shame it is quite obvious the potential candidates you were referring to then?

Also I am sure you will see that I never suggested you HAD tried to say that people had no right to comment either so I am unsure why you felt the need to post that?

However, all this "unhelpful to the club" stuff is just a load of bo!!ocks. Players and staff alike are happy to accept all the praise and adulation when things are going well. They should be able to take the criticism when it is warranted also IMO, otherwise they are clearly in the wrong profession.

Candidates, yes. There were a few, IIRC. I said it wasn't aimed specifically at you (or any single individual) and it wasn't, so don't be so paranoid. There is an old Yorkshire saying though, about if the cap fits then you may as well wear it? Jeez, all this fuss about a throwaway remark.

You mentioned that "people have the right to complain" in a reply to my earlier post, which suggested, if not said outright, that you felt I had. Glad to clear that up.

We've discussed whether the old criticisms were warranted, or not, dozens of times before and to be honest neither of us is going to change their respective position. The rest of us though, have moved on; it's a dead argument, a discussion from a bygone age, it's over. To be honest Mystic, you can keep it going forever I guess, but I've kept away from it since last year, and I'm not getting drawn into it again.

P.S. before telling posters they are talking bo!!ocks you might think about another old saying about pots and kettles?