|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bulliac"It wasn't a head injury and he wasn't interfering with play.'"
He is meant to stop play at the next available opportunity once he is aware the Doc has entered the field of play, regardless of what the injury is though. I can't remember how quickly the Doc came on though
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| It's always a bit of both, tbh.
We kept the pressure up all game - probably for the first time this season and our plays came off. Defence was solid, though it is far to say Oldham didn't offer much and, as said earlier, you can only play what's in front of you.
I thought Oldham had a bit of bad luck with injuries, which was unfortunate for them and certainly didn't help their cause, though giving away penalty after penalty is just bad discipline and down to them alone. As a match it was a total mis-match - though, if you must watch a game which ends 82 - 0 , I have to say it's certainly better to win than to lose.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 112 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Yes I agree we played some good rugby most of the game. The second half was best as we didn,t seem to be trying to score in the first 2 plays of each set. Can't remember how many times we lost the ball within first 3 tackles in the first half hour. Also as said above we stiuck to playing for full 80 mins and Oldham shot themselves in the foot with their indiscipline
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5880 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Definitely a bit of both. We scored some opportunistic tries from their unforced errors, and bagged a couple while they were down to eleven men.
But at the same time, we scored some tries that involved some nice passing movements and good support play. Joe Keyes in particular looked very composed at six and had a hand in a number of tries via both cut-out passes and well timed short ones.
Chisholm scored his trademark solo effort by running across the defence and darting through a gap, then bagged another when Oldham were attacking by doing well to pick up a grubber kick that was down by his shoe laces and ran 90 yards to score.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Highlander"He is meant to stop play at the next available opportunity once he is aware the Doc has entered the field of play, regardless of what the injury is though. I can't remember how quickly the Doc came on though'"
I haven't seen the incident in question, but I understood it to be only if the player is close to the play or it's a head injury. If the player is well behind the attacking line and it's anything but a head injury, the referee isn't supposed to stop it, is he? It may be also that if he's well behind the defensive line, they may stop it due to a break potentially causing the play to go his way, but it's so unlikely behind an attacking line that they don't stop it.
If they did stop it every time, it would encourage gamesmanship whenever a team was looking dangerous. Which we all know is part of the game now whether we like it or not. (Not saying the Oldham player was party to that of course)
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 8108 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| If anything it makes me feel all the more bitter that we put together a performance like that when it doesn't really matter.
Maybe our group of lads can have that sense of flair and freedom from taking to the pitch knowing the game counts for eff all, and so they are devoid of any pressure.. Bless em.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="HamsterChops"I haven't seen the incident in question, but I understood it to be only if the player is close to the play or it's a head injury. If the player is well behind the attacking line and it's anything but a head injury, the referee isn't supposed to stop it, is he? It may be also that if he's well behind the defensive line, they may stop it due to a break potentially causing the play to go his way, but it's so unlikely behind an attacking line that they don't stop it.
If they did stop it every time, it would encourage gamesmanship whenever a team was looking dangerous. Which we all know is part of the game now whether we like it or not. (Not saying the Oldham player was party to that of course)'"
" Treatment to an injured player, by not more
than one attendant, may be permitted while play proceeds if, in
the opinion of the Referee, such treatment is not likely to interfere
with play.
The attendant shall not place anything on the ground likely to
interfere with play, or carry anything of a rigid nature likely to cause
injury in the event of a rapid switch in play causing an unforeseen
collision"
That's the paragraph in the operational rules. As soon as a 2nd person (normally the Doc) enters field of play, the ref "cannot permit play to proceed". Equally if the emergency equipment begins to come on ie oxygen, stretcher etc. as it is unsafe to continue.
If it's just the physio, play can continue, as soon as it starts to escalate, it can't.
The Doctors professional obligations are covered under the RFL medical standards.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It was bit like watching your horse romp home by a distance in the amateur Plate race at Cartmel, when it had been entered for Royal Ascot, but it didn't qualify as the old trainer used to think starting off with the other horses wasn't necessary, and you didn't really need a proper jockey.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| That makes sense. As I say, I didn't see the incident in question. I suppose it depends on how many people were tending to the injured player. If it was just the physio, the referee was ok to play on. If there was a doctor and a physio, he should have stopped it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7111 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Highlander"" Treatment to an injured player, by not more
than one attendant, may be permitted while play proceeds if, in
the opinion of the Referee, such treatment is not likely to interfere
with play.
The attendant shall not place anything on the ground likely to
interfere with play, or carry anything of a rigid nature likely to cause
injury in the event of a rapid switch in play causing an unforeseen
collision"
That's the paragraph in the operational rules. As soon as a 2nd person (normally the Doc) enters field of play, the ref "cannot permit play to proceed". Equally if the emergency equipment begins to come on ie oxygen, stretcher etc. as it is unsafe to continue.
If it's just the physio, play can continue, as soon as it starts to escalate, it can't.
The Doctors professional obligations are covered under the RFL medical standards.'"
You can see why Oldham weren't happy then. There were both teams' medical staff and the doctor on the field. They brought the stretcher out while we were kicking the conversion and had to hold fire with kicking off while the poor lad was carried from the pitch.
That said it makes no difference we were more than good value for the score line. I was most impressed with the way we defended our line against repeat sets in the last ten minutes. Still defending like it was the first minute. As some have said its the right attitude to have.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1004 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The referee was highly inexperienced too (he is only 20 years old and studying at Durham Uni), so I think he deserves to be cut a little bit of slack, especially because he will likely get a b0ll0cking from the RFL for allowing a quick PTB in the Championship.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Likely to be demoted to the Pennine league imo...allowing a quick ptb in the Championship could be the end of life as we know it and it simply must be stopped before it gets out of hand.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1004 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Jan 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bulliac"Likely to be demoted to the Pennine league imo..'"
Are you Hobbo in disguise?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| No mate, I'm no radio star.
I once did an interview for Sky[cut down to around five words when broadcast and also an interview for French TV whilst we we were in Perpignan for a match, which, as I had left for Angleterre before it was shown I never even saw. So, I put myself down as a TV man..
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I was the official vox pop fan in a Sky trailer for their coverage a few years back, my clip was on the telly every 2 minutes, and I was sat there waiting for the royalties to flow in, intending to use the money to buy in to the club and turn us into the northern hemisphere powerhouse. I'm still waiting. I presume the cheque's in the post
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I was the official vox pop fan in a Sky trailer for their coverage a few years back, my clip was on the telly every 2 minutes, and I was sat there waiting for the royalties to flow in, intending to use the money to buy in to the club and turn us into the northern hemisphere powerhouse. I'm still waiting. I presume the cheque's in the post
'"
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1625 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2019 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Just a quick nod to the Keeeyes / Sneeeyd rip-off with the addition on jaggling keys, that made me chuckle.
Much, much better than the poor Viking clap!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2059 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Oldham have put out a statement apologising for performance.
Right at the bottom it says new loan signing James Medeika to join up with squad in next week. Knew his time was up but didn't know players could go out on loan this late in season... Unless I've missed it somewhere else.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7111 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Oldham have put out a statement apologising for performance.
Right at the bottom it says new loan signing James Medeika to join up with squad in next week. Knew his time was up but didn't know players could go out on loan this late in season... Unless I've missed it somewhere else.'"
No idea but I'm glad as it must be frustrating kicking around tong all week knowing you're not going to play.
We've got a few contracted next season still to try and move on.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7111 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bulliac"Likely to be demoted to the Pennine league imo...allowing a quick ptb in the Championship could be the end of life as we know it and it simply must be stopped before it gets out of hand.'"
When was the last time you saw a red put a club on a team warning and actually go through with it?
There was a really angry Oldham fan near us that got a bit bitter about our financial situation at that point and a lass with him who said it was bollox.
The big lad that doesn't stop singing is good though. I spoke to him after the game he's sound.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Oldham have put out a statement apologising for performance.
Right at the bottom it says new loan signing James Medeika to join up with squad in next week. Knew his time was up but didn't know players could go out on loan this late in season... Unless I've missed it somewhere else.'"
Oldham announced before the transfer deadline that Mendeika had joined them. I think Bulls then put a small note on another article saying he had gone on loan.
Strange that he's only just linking up with them, but if he's just getting over the long term injury, he may have stayed at Odsal until his rehab was done.
Link from July 22 [url=http://www.roughyeds.co.uk/news/mendeika-signs/HERE[/url
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza":tvlhvfhoWhen was the last time you saw a red put a club on a team warning and actually go through with it?
'" should have stopped the game when the Oldham player was clearly in a bad way - but otherwise he had a good game overall.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bulliac"It's also a bit unclear how long the team warning is supposed to last. If they don't re-offend until, say 10 minutes later, is it just a penalty then or do we reach that point after quarter of an hour? Tbh, I don't know and I'm not sure anyone else does either.
'"
The official rule is that it's at the referee's discretion. So essentially the referee can choose to totally ignore the fact he's given a team warning if he wants, or he could give a team warning 5 minutes into the game and then sin bin someone when the next penalty happens with a minute left.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Referees' discretion is probably the right way to do it, but it does leave everyone else in doubt - as far as the players are concerned maybe that is the reasoning behind it, and nebulous as it is there is, at least, some logic in that.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 112 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Wasn't it the Dewsbury home game where the ref used his descretion about 5 times before binning a player in last few minutes?
|
|
|
|
|