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| Quote ="broadybull87"Were the early bird prices a reduced amount a couple of years ago? that would help alot of people especially around Christmas time say buy before jan and save £30-50 off your ST'"
Early bird was scrapped when Green took over the club. There's no incentive for fans to buy early any more other than if they want to pay extra to pay in installments
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| IIRC he had one ready to go after the MPG game. Fair enough it was the definitive end of the season. But so, to also be fair, was Sunday,
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Why can't the club try and run another season ticket pledge drive like the 10k £60 deal.
We get around 4k fans to every game and there must be about 75% of those fans with season tickets as there was the quoted figure that we were only selling about 4k season tickets even during the glory days. So why not? I'm not advocating £60 tickets, but if we got 6k takers at say £150 ground entrance that's £900k. Over £200k more than 3k at £230. Plus you've got an extra 2k people in on match days. Surely that adds to Mr Green's desire to see more fans paying money in the ground?'"
The danger is you don't hit the target and then you've undersold the tickets you do sell and you have a shortfall.
It's a very passionate statement from Green and perhaps he deserves one last shot next season and for us to lend our support but we absolutely have to believe that the players are going to bust a gut EVERY game. He hasn't addressed the underachievement that we have witnessed and that's where most people's frustrations lie.
He wants the club to succeed, we want the club to succeed but really the only people who can make that happen are those who take to the field.
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| Quote ="bullsonfire"He wants the club to succeed, we want the club to succeed but really the only people who can make that happen are those who take to the field.'"
The solution is in the problem. We need to get the message board team back together.
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| The witch-hunt against Ferris particularly from some of the T&A forum muppets was just grounded in dislike of the guy and the club, not substance. Nobody other than those involved knows exactly who signed who.
But in the end what is not in doubt is that many signings have not worked out and hopefully lessons have been learned. A huge clear out is needed. Without any substance other than rumour I was told a certain prop forward was on £90000 a year for 15 mins work every once in a while! if some our players are or were on that amount then it should be relatively easy to save some money by getting rid if they are out of contract.
I agree with Green it is up to the supporters to keep the club afloat and hope the club can be more prudent with our money.
On a footnote does any body seriously believe Batleys wage bill is £150000 a year!!! This is a club who when announcing attendance figure against us last year brought howls of laughter from the crowd.
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| Certainly a strong statement and puts part time rumours to bed hopefully. Would have been nice if he'd clarified how, if at all, liquidation of safeguard could affect club but guess that's his personal business ateotd. If club is being run as a business then only major issue could be his ability to temporarily provide finances in event of cashflow issues.
Looking at players leaving, departures should pretty much cover shortfall in central funding as its mainly players you would expect to be bigger earners, plus quite a few who've been taking a wage and barely playing. Down to Rohan now, to identify better value options and bring through the youth.
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| Positive statement from Green, and I absolutely agree with his comment on the junior intake at all levels at the moment, we have got that very right at the moment.
I get his frustration given he made an earlier statement about staying full time next year and that our squad was just about complete for next year. BUT..... Look at where the rumors really gained credence, in the media! Within an hour of Sunday's game ending, Phil Caplin on Radio Leeds was talking about hard decisions needing to be taken and that players may have to be unloaded next season if not before, a view supported enthusiastically by the T&A & the YP this morning. This helped feed the on line frenzy that seems to have so frustrated Green. It's clear from the T&A articles that there isn't a good relationship with him, and I guess the rest of the press. That is something that is in Green's power to put right, nothing to do with supporters, but helps feed supporters less than positive attitudes. The way the club communicate on injured players sort of bears this out as well, no word on why players are missing, what the problem is etc. I get not wanting to show all your cards to competitors, but when were we informed that Gaskell would be out approx. x weeks, 2 or 3 weeks ago.
All this would be irrelevant if we saw the team fighting as a team, even in defeat, but too often we see little fight, hence Green should understand why people question paying top dollar for ragtag performances. Address the communication issues, keep a future vision with the development of juniors and get a group of players fighting 80 minutes each week for each other (not just against Leigh) and I have little doubt the majority of supporters would continue to shell out cash to support our club, if they have something to feel proud of!
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| Mick should be ashamed his in the know tweet set off this drama which gained momentum through mainstream media.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"
Intersting comments about coach being offered players including a HB currently in SL.
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I've been saying this all season.
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| Fair play mate, you have been saying exactly that in exactly that way too. I hold my hand up to not completely believing it. Nothing to with the messenger, just the abject craziness of the message.
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| Quote ="vbfg"The solution is in the problem. We need to get the message board team back together.'"
That is quite possibly the best idea I have heard in ages!!!
The fact I've got dodgy knees, am about 5 stone over weight and would probably have a heart attack aside... I'M IN!!!!!
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| Quote ="vbfg"Fair play mate, you have been saying exactly that in exactly that way too. I hold my hand up to not completely believing it. Nothing to with the messenger, just the abject craziness of the message.'"
I should have took MGLED approach of been in the know.
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| So, on a lighter note, which half back did we turn down from signing this year, my money is on Rob Burrow
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Theo Fages.'"
Liam Finn too.
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| Don't forget possibly Pita Godinet too.
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| So we could actually have had an entire team of scrum halves out there at one point. It might even have been considered.
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| I'd have taken Marc Green's statement on board more readily if there'd been even a smidgeon of humility.
No recognition of mistakes made, bad signing policy, keeping Lowes as coach for too long, players not performing to their undoubted ability - and so on...
Yes, the abuse and mistruths are all wrong - but once again we have a statement that places the onus right back onto the long-suffering (and diminishing) supporters.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I'd have taken Marc Green's statement on board more readily if there'd been even a smidgeon of humility.
No recognition of mistakes made, bad signing policy, keeping Lowes as coach for too long, players not performing to their undoubted ability - and so on...
Yes, the abuse and mistruths are all wrong - but once again we have a statement that places the onus right back onto the long-suffering (and diminishing) supporters.'"
Why was it a bad signing policy. As individuals the players aren't bad they just don't work as a team.
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"The witch-hunt against Ferris particularly from some of the T&A forum muppets was just grounded in dislike of the guy and the club, not substance. Nobody other than those involved knows exactly who signed who.
But in the end what is not in doubt is that many signings have not worked out and hopefully lessons have been learned. A huge clear out is needed. Without any substance other than rumour I was told a certain prop forward was on £90000 a year for 15 mins work every once in a while! if some our players are or were on that amount then it should be relatively easy to save some money by getting rid if they are out of contract.
I agree with Green it is up to the supporters to keep the club afloat and hope the club can be more prudent with our money.
On a footnote does any body seriously believe Batleys wage bill is £150000 a year!!! This is a club who when announcing attendance figure against us last year brought howls of laughter from the crowd.'"
Batley budget can't of been £150k because they players was on a 5k bonus for winning on Sunday.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Why was it a bad signing policy. As individuals the players aren't bad they just don't work as a team.'"
Well, I was rather working on the understanding that we sign players to fit into a team...
If we sign players that aren't going to fit in to what we need as a team, then it kinda fits with the description of 'bad signing policy'
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| Quote ="RickyF1"Batley budget can't of been £150k because they players was on a 5k bonus for winning on Sunday.'"
Slightly more, but not much, plus match terms. As for the rumour of £5000 bonus for winning on Sunday, I would very much doubt it, but I suppose one never knows. No-one at the club has ever publicly made a statement regarding bonuses either recently or throughout the season. Not sure where that kind of money would come from. What the club do benefit from is an extremely successful independent group who raise money for signings, and an extremely successful scheme for supporters where they raise money that contributes directly to pay player's salaries.
What is without a doubt, our budget was significantly less than yours!
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| So it wasn't Ferres that said we needed a SH.
And why is everyone so hung up on being FT. We've been FT for two years and the performances have got worse. Are Batley FT? Are Fev FT? Perhaps if we went part time we could then dangle a FT contract to the players to get the lazy bar stewards to put in a decent performance.
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| Green for starters confirms what I have been saying, namely much as he said he wasn't the man to be bankrolling the club, nevertheless we have needed bankrolling as and when, and he has stepped in to do just that. Nobody is giving him credit for this, just like nobody gave Omar credit for doing his bollox in to try to keep the ship afloat. We can be an ungrateful lot.
I don't read it as having a go at the fans, just stating the position which should be obvious. Namely, his plan of yet another Championship season with a decent full time squad REQUIRES a goodly expenditure by the fans, and if as my poll suggests, 50% may not renew, then the remainder will not be enough to fund that plan.
I left the poll open precisely so if major announcements were made, people can re-vote, and it'll be very interesting to see how many of us decide to preserve the status quo, given his unequivocal and clear statement of intent, despite the crushing disappointments of this season.
Where Green is in error (and let's be honest, communication is not his strong point) is not realising that after the Fev debacle, they needed to move quickly to do damage limitation. He must have been as gutted as anyone, perhaps in the circumstances more than most, at what happened, and the manner of our downfall. But fall we did, and it is his business which he needs to keep going, in the first instance, to avoid immediate meltdown, and to gain promotion in 12 months time, which year HE has to subsidise - not Ferres, or anyone else. He does have a choice. In many ways the easy choice would be to cut his losses and bail. I am not a little relieved to hear that he isn't doing that, despite the rumours and character assassinations, and while he may not get much credit again for that, he bloody well should.
But I can't imagine how he would stand yet another year were we to fail again, and I can't imagine how we can have any sort of a crack at it unless we keep pretty much all of our support.
His statement skirts round some major problems - such as the undoubtedly disastrous signings record - but the essentials are correct, and I can't argue with them.
As things stand, I am convinced enough to be back next year. It isn't just Green's commitment. It is the fact we also have the germ of a great set of youngsters rapidly maturing, we have the most promising young new coach in the game, and at last we have a fsck in scrum half to start to build a team and systems around. It is idle to pick over the bones of why this only happened too late, as 2016 has gone now and won't be coming back. We are looking at the future for this conversation. Inquests are maybe inevitable, and necessary, but those of us who cling to a hope of return of some better days had better hope that our numbers hold fairly firm as cash will be King.
For the most part, I say well said Marc Green, he has invested a lot in our club and been let down, but he wants to go around again. He will have learned lessons. I'm in.
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| just finished work and after reading the statement I'm left with the opinion that no one is going to take blame for the poor season, instead the fans now have to pay for full time championship rugby again. Will everyone back the statement and go again with a season ticket? I guess if I lived in bradford still I'd pick and choose the games I attended. maybe go to the Halifax game in the shield at odsal.
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