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| Quote ="BigHeapOfBull"Wigan was a friendly. So well done you beat a team full of reserves and the occasional full timer brought on for 5 minutes. Bet your fans sucked that dry for all its plaudits by now!'"
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That would have been in their squad of 26? 28? Most of the squad will be in 'the team' for pre-season games, but it doesn't mean they actually put many minutes in on the paddock.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"That would have been in their squad of 26? 28?[u Most of the squad will be in 'the team' for pre-season games, but it doesn't mean they actually put many minutes in on the paddock.'" [/u
No your right it doesn't. But they did. And don't forget that we rotated as well. And we still won. |
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| Which bit of, 'it was just a practice match', are you struggling with?   |
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Quote ="Bulliac"Which bit of, 'it was just a practice match', are you struggling with?
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Sorry,You're not making any sense.
Did you watch the match?
FWIW Here are the teams - And let me tell you, Shaun Wane NEVER likes to lose.
Leigh Centurions; Gregg McNally, Adam Higson, Gregg Worthington, Tom Armstrong, Liam Kay, Ben Reynolds, Ryan Brierley, Fui Fui Moi Moi, Bob Beswick, Jamie Acton, Oliver Wilkes, Tommy Goulden, Sam Barlow.
Subs: Cameron Pitman, Sean Penywicz, Jake Emmett, Jamie Tracy, Johnny Pownall, Johnny Walker, Lewis Foster, Sam Hopkins, Sam Peet
Wigan Warriors; Ryan Hampshire, Josh Charnley, Joel Tomkins, Oliver Gildart, Dom Manfredi, George Williams, Matty Smith, Dom Crosby, Michael McIlorum, Ryan Sutton, Liam Farrell, John Bateman, Larne Patrick
Subs; Joe Burgess, Matty Bowen, Logan Tomkins, Taulima Tautai, Connor Farrell, James Greenwood, Rob Lever, Lewis Tierney, Jake Shorrocks, Jamie Doran, Kyle Shelford
Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... Gmt9qPU.99 |
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Quote ="Bulliac"Which bit of, 'it was just a practice match', are you struggling with?
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Sorry,You're not making any sense.
Did you watch the match?
FWIW Here are the teams - And let me tell you, Shaun Wane NEVER likes to lose.
Leigh Centurions; Gregg McNally, Adam Higson, Gregg Worthington, Tom Armstrong, Liam Kay, Ben Reynolds, Ryan Brierley, Fui Fui Moi Moi, Bob Beswick, Jamie Acton, Oliver Wilkes, Tommy Goulden, Sam Barlow.
Subs: Cameron Pitman, Sean Penywicz, Jake Emmett, Jamie Tracy, Johnny Pownall, Johnny Walker, Lewis Foster, Sam Hopkins, Sam Peet
Wigan Warriors; Ryan Hampshire, Josh Charnley, Joel Tomkins, Oliver Gildart, Dom Manfredi, George Williams, Matty Smith, Dom Crosby, Michael McIlorum, Ryan Sutton, Liam Farrell, John Bateman, Larne Patrick
Subs; Joe Burgess, Matty Bowen, Logan Tomkins, Taulima Tautai, Connor Farrell, James Greenwood, Rob Lever, Lewis Tierney, Jake Shorrocks, Jamie Doran, Kyle Shelford
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Seriously is this still going on! What Leigh/Bradford did in pre-season and do between now and the split has absolutely zilch to do with what happens in the middle eights.
I think what happened in that first game has been done to death! The referee was clearly out of his depth. But when the middle 8's get under way the games won't be so out of control (you would hope)
We lost that game as we weren't good enough in the second half. While the ref was poor, those thinking we only have to turn up against Leigh with a competent ref are kidding themselves.
Equally the Leigh fans who think they'll get promoted because they beat Wigan in a friendly and beat Bradford in an out of control game are equally kidding themselves.
Bradford and Leigh have the potential to get promoted and beat each other. It will simply come down to who performs better on the day. Using examples of when their team played well and when the opposition played badly are irrelevant.
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Maybe we can argue with Fax fans after tonight. Leigh fans have already found a new rival in Salford board.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Seriously is this still going on! What Leigh/Bradford did in pre-season and do between now and the split has absolutely zilch to do with what happens in the middle eights.
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| Quote ="8ULL5HITT4"Maybe we can argue with Fax fans after tonight. Leigh fans have already found a new rival in Salford board.'"
FWIW - I think you'll win comfortably tonight. But then again, what do i know.  |
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Oh, I get it now, Bradford were crap in the second half, Not that Leigh played well. Silly me. '"
Exactly. now you're getting it. This is all spin control & PR.
I understand that Leigh want to make it all about their team - Leigh played poorly in the first half and well in the 2nd. So Leythers can say that they won that game.
But, the reality is, Bradford lost that game, regardless of what Leigh did. Bradford forgot what Jimmy had told them, forgot that there are several competent teams in the championship, and forgot that they can't just switch off, stop playing & put the cue on the rack at half time, like they did.
So basically, Bradford lost that game, by mentally switching off as they thought the game was done. Lesson learned, move on. Won't make that mistake again.
On topic. I've said it somewhere else. but 1st place would seem to give you the best chance of finishing 4/5.
I think 2nd place gives you a higher chance of 3rd, but equally a higher chance of 6th, and missing out altogether.
Basic risk/reward. Pays your money & takes your chance... |
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| Quote ="Highlander"Exactly. now you're getting it. This is all spin control & PR.
I understand that Leigh want to make it all about their team - Leigh played poorly in the first half and well in the 2nd. So Leythers can say that they won that game.
But, the reality is, Bradford lost that game, regardless of what Leigh did. Bradford forgot what Jimmy had told them, forgot that there are several competent teams in the championship, and forgot that they can't just switch off, stop playing & put the cue on the rack at half time, like they did.
So basically, Bradford lost that game, by mentally switching off as they thought the game was done. Lesson learned, move on. Won't make that mistake again.
On topic. I've said it somewhere else. but 1st place would seem to give you the best chance of finishing 4/5.
I think 2nd place gives you a higher chance of 3rd, but equally a higher chance of 6th, and missing out altogether.
Basic risk/reward. Pays your money & takes your chance...'"
You're living in cloud cuckoo land with that statement. But thank you, at least you don't mention the ref. |
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| Quote ="Highlander"Exactly. now you're getting it. This is all spin control & PR.
I understand that Leigh want to make it all about their team - Leigh played poorly in the first half and well in the 2nd. So Leythers can say that they won that game.
But, the reality is, Bradford lost that game, regardless of what Leigh did. Bradford forgot what Jimmy had told them, forgot that there are several competent teams in the championship, and forgot that they can't just switch off, stop playing & put the cue on the rack at half time, like they did.
[uSo basically, Bradford lost that game, by mentally switching off as they thought the game was done. Lesson learned, move on. Won't make that mistake again. [/u
On topic. I've said it somewhere else. but 1st place would seem to give you the best chance of finishing 4/5.
I think 2nd place gives you a higher chance of 3rd, but equally a higher chance of 6th, and missing out altogether.
Basic risk/reward. Pays your money & takes your chance...'"
And Leigh won't give you a 20-6 Lead next time. |
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Cokey, have you got nowt better to do? you are boring the tits of me now, go help Hock count his games since suspension and help him work out when he is due back
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As much as this is enthralling for us all (I refresh my browser every minute in giddy expectation) shall we steer back to the topic?
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I tried pumpy...
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Can't see Wakey fans being happy with that. Like us they have seen a price increase in ST and for Webster to effectively throw in the towel already would be a slap in the face for their fans. Wakey are only 4 points off the top 8. Could easily sneak into the top 8 with a run of form.
Seems to be some unrest with some of their fans regarding Webster. I don't think he's a bad coach, but I think he (and possibly their chairman) has allowed their injury situation to become an excuse. Both seem to have obsessed slightly to how much salary cap they've had playing :s
Fans just want to their team to have a dig, but having read their board, seems the players and coach are happy to accelt defeat as they have injuries.
Think it is hard for the SL to concentrate on the middle 8, as things can quickly unravel for them. They start losing heavily and you lose the fans and team/club spirit. They have a good team on paper, but the game isn't played on paper.
If the split happened right now, Wakey could be vulnerable, losing heavily and unrest on the terraces whereas Leigh/Bradford both have feel good factors around their clubs.
But there is A LOT of rugby to be played between now and then. Wakey could go on a winning run and make the top 8, the wheels could come off for us and Leigh.
We just need to keep winning, keep improving every game and keeping players fit and healthy.
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Can't see Wakey fans being happy with that. Like us they have seen a price increase in ST and for Webster to effectively throw in the towel already would be a slap in the face for their fans. Wakey are only 4 points off the top 8. Could easily sneak into the top 8 with a run of form.
Seems to be some unrest with some of their fans regarding Webster. I don't think he's a bad coach, but I think he (and possibly their chairman) has allowed their injury situation to become an excuse. Both seem to have obsessed slightly to how much salary cap they've had playing :s
Fans just want to their team to have a dig, but having read their board, seems the players and coach are happy to accelt defeat as they have injuries.
Think it is hard for the SL to concentrate on the middle 8, as things can quickly unravel for them. They start losing heavily and you lose the fans and team/club spirit. They have a good team on paper, but the game isn't played on paper.
If the split happened right now, Wakey could be vulnerable, losing heavily and unrest on the terraces whereas Leigh/Bradford both have feel good factors around their clubs.
But there is A LOT of rugby to be played between now and then. Wakey could go on a winning run and make the top 8, the wheels could come off for us and Leigh.
We just need to keep winning, keep improving every game and keeping players fit and healthy.
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With regards to the salary cap situation, it's not just a question of how much you spend but how wisely you spend it.
Bradford for example, IMO, have spent their cap wisely and have brought in a good squad with a lot of depth who are, in the majority, on the cusp of hitting what should be their prime years of playing so you've got what is a strong core of the team for the next 5 or 6 years.
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It's hardly a ringing endorsement for Wakey fans to buy a season ticket, is it? Round 9 and their coach is already prepared to sack off the remaining fixtures up to the league split.
I seem to recall Webster making some comments during pre-season that, rather than go for a larger squad, they were going to bring in quality over quantity. That's great if you can keep them all fit for the majority of the season, but in reality that doesn't happen very often. It was always a dangerous game imo, but it's not over for them yet by a long shot. They are still favourites to stay up, and if their injury woes are behind them by the time we reach round 23 then they will be tough to beat.
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From the video, "We had to ring the RFL to ask what happens if we can't field 17"? Is he serious?
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Can't see the fans buying in to a philosophy of preparing for later and that's going to have an impact on crowds. Major blunder. What would the players think now.....it's ok to lose.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"From the video, "We had to ring the RFL to ask what happens if we can't field 17"? Is he serious?'"
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