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| I think I'm joining a pretty big queue in saying that I didn't vote as not a Bulls supporter but a clean start is important I think.
If there has to be a penalty to keep things clean for all the other clubs, it should in my opinion be to start them at a lower level, on the same footing as everyone else in that league.
A points deduction doesn't really benefit anyone. It only works if you have the same squad and team, thus penalising against the building of that team against the "rules". If you've had to let the whole team go, you already been set back a level.
I thought the Rangers demotion in Scottish football was over the top but they relegated them to the level they thought appropriate and let them start again. They are now second in the league and giving Celtic a good run for their draw on New Years Eve.
The demotion cost every club money through attendances and sponsorship I'm sure but at least they gave them a way back.
To relegate and do the points deduction simply wastes a year that could have been a building year and demoralises the new club, players and fans.
So, from a Wakefield fan, I hope we are playing against you again soon. (On your way up, not our way down )
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Just a thought, but say the Bulls didn't form for another season and the RFL gave everyone a bye. What would happen to the extra fixture at the Summer Bash? We play the bulls 3 times so potentially lose the right to fight for 6 points but everyone else only plays you twice. Those 2 points could be crucial come the end of the season.'"
If we play you this season, you're getting an easy 2 points out of that fixture. If we'd got out of the administration, you'd have had a fairly easy 2 points. The only difference in giving you a bye there and just letting you have 2 points is that your players get a week's rest instead of running in try after try after try for 80 minutes, and your fans wouldn't have any real reason to go to Blackpool apart from the Fish n Chips and the Rock.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"If we play you this season, you're getting an easy 2 points out of that fixture. If we'd got out of the administration, you'd have had a fairly easy 2 points. The only difference in giving you a bye there and just letting you have 2 points is that your players get a week's rest instead of running in try after try after try for 80 minutes, and your fans wouldn't have any real reason to go to Blackpool apart from the Fish n Chips and the Rock.'"
I'm one of the few fans who think we may struggle so those extra 2 points we cant fight for could be crucial.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I'm one of the few fans who think we may struggle so those extra 2 points we cant fight for could be crucial.'"
You'll be fine. You just might struggle vs the SL sides but I hope you don't. I want those privileged SL clubs looking over their shoulders.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
So, from a Wakefield fan, I hope we are playing against you again soon. (On your way up, not our way down
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Thank you pop tart much appreciated
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Just a thought, but say the Bulls didn't form for another season and the RFL gave everyone a bye. What would happen to the extra fixture at the Summer Bash? We play the bulls 3 times so potentially lose the right to fight for 6 points but everyone else only plays you twice. Those 2 points could be crucial come the end of the season.'"
Surely now, so soon before the new season starts, the only option the RFL would have if this scenario played out would be to declare all Summer Bash fixtures as Friendlies.
You can't have the other 10 teams having an extra game that contributes to their points tally as that's unfair on Hull KR
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| Quote ="Bullmans Parade"Surely now, so soon before the new season starts, the only option the RFL would have if this scenario played out would be to declare all Summer Bash fixtures as Friendlies.
You can't have the other 10 teams having an extra game that contributes to their points tally as that's unfair on Hull KR'"
Straight away by doing that, you've devalued the whole weekend. Who would go all the way to Blackpool for a friendly?
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Straight away by doing that, you've devalued the whole weekend. Who would go all the way to Blackpool for a friendly?'"
I totally agree but the only alternative would be to cancel the whole thing. You can't have Hull KR only having 20 competitive fixtures in the season whilst everyone else gets 21
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| Just cancel the thing. There's only the HKR fans that would make the place look occupied.
Then give everyone a bye and let us start in championship 1 in 2018 with a proper run up. Then you don't have to go through this charade we're going through now.
If anyone's short of cash then the RFL cover it to all the other clubs. Let's face it the visit of Bradford Northern Unpaid Bills in 2017 won't bring the travelling army it did in 2015 or 2016.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Just a thought, but say the Bulls didn't form for another season and the RFL gave everyone a bye. What would happen to the extra fixture at the Summer Bash? We play the bulls 3 times so potentially lose the right to fight for 6 points but everyone else only plays you twice. Those 2 points could be crucial come the end of the season.'"
Mate, I've already said elsewhere, the bash is an unaccountable aberration already, it makes no odds whether we turn up or not, KR are going to win anyway, so just gift them the points. Job done.
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| League 1.
There is no point in seeing a new, but heavily depleted, Bradford side getting smashed in the Championship every week, simply to get relegated and then have to try to pick themselves up yet again.
Better to start afresh, with a reasonable chance of picking up wins and building towards a better future; with your support base there is no reason to suppose that you cant make it back into the Championship and then SL eventually.
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| Quote ="alleycat"Better to start afresh, with a reasonable chance of picking up wins and building towards a better future; with your support base there is no reason to suppose that you cant make it back into the Championship and then SL eventually.'"
Indeed. And that support base will only take more of a kicking if we spend next year watching the Bulls get thrashed week in week out.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Just cancel the thing. There's only the HKR fans that would make the place look occupied.
Then give everyone a bye and let us start in championship 1 in 2018 with a proper run up. Then you don't have to go through this charade we're going through now.
If anyone's short of cash then the RFL cover it to all the other clubs. Let's face it the visit of Bradford Northern Unpaid Bills in 2017 won't bring the travelling army it did in 2015 or 2016.'"
And they could always then move the iPro Final (or whatever its called) to Odsal seeing as it will be sat there doing nowt!
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| Come 5th Feb roll up in your numbers to the light stream and let's get a crowd in that will be the envy of most superleague teams. I know Rovers are hoping for a crowd approaching 5 figures having sold over 5000 passes.You might as well start against the favourites for top 2 and see where you are. It's the first game and a siege mentality from you may mean you give us a good game.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Come 5th Feb roll up in your numbers to the light stream and let's get a crowd in that will be the envy of most superleague teams. I know Rovers are hoping for a crowd approaching 5 figures having sold over 5000 passes.You might as well start against the favourites for top 2 and see where you are. It's the first game and a siege mentality from you may mean you give us a good game.'"
Is there ANY sherry left in Hull ?
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| Still hoping the RFL see sense [though not holding my breath and put us in champ 1 - at least we might win a few games in that division and tbh, I've still not decided what I'm doing this year. If my ticket is honoured I might still go, if not, I might well sack it altogether.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Come 5th Feb roll up in your numbers to the light stream and let's get a crowd in that will be the envy of most superleague teams. I know Rovers are hoping for a crowd approaching 5 figures having sold over 5000 passes.You might as well start against the favourites for top 2 and see where you are. It's the first game and a siege mentality from you may mean you give us a good game.'"
You do know what's happened yes? If there are 17 players lined up for a pasting that day, it will be a miracle.
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| Quote ="chissitt"That's a very good point you make there Rog can't understand the bitterness really, all I can say is that's not a reflection of most Wakey fans.
Whatever the outcome lets hope it's a positive one and you and the rest of fans, good luck pal.'"
Hello mate we know there is some good folk out there, including you
Cheers Chissy
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Still hoping the RFL see sense [though not holding my breath and put us in champ 1 - at least we might win a few games in that division and tbh, I've still not decided what I'm doing this year. If my ticket is honoured I might still go, if not, I might well sack it altogether.'"
Always assuming there is anything left to sack off by the time the latest process is completed Bulliac.
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| Personally I think that this is the best option for the new club. Hope it comes about and we see a 'new' Bradford very soon. good luck!
Quote ="alleycat"League 1.
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Better to start afresh, with a reasonable chance of picking up wins and building towards a better future; with your support base there is no reason to suppose that you cant make it back into the Championship and then SL eventually.'"
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| How do we collectively tell the 10 bidders that actually we don't want to take up the RFL poisoned chalice. It isn't the will of the fans and they shouldn't do it.
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| Quote ="INKERS75"Personally I think that this is the best option for the new club. Hope it comes about and we see a 'new' Bradford very soon. good luck!
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Cheers Inkers! Could be sooner than we thought looking at the other thread, but who really knows?! Its the RFL's ball and we'll have to see who and where they let play with it.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"How do we collectively tell the 10 bidders that actually we don't want to take up the RFL poisoned chalice. It isn't the will of the fans and they shouldn't do it.'"
Indeed, I suspect a few of the bidders will have read these pages at least. Also given that its safe to assume no Bulls fan actual picked the joke SL option the numbers are closer to 85% in favour of League 1 I reckon.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"How do we collectively tell the 10 bidders that actually we don't want to take up the RFL poisoned chalice. It isn't the will of the fans and they shouldn't do it.'"
I might come on here and rant about it. That's guaranteed to work.
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| 10 bidders and 10 votes for the 3rd option. Got to be more than a coincidence
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