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| Quote ="roger daly"We know we ain't anywhere near a top 8 team,but I thought Wakie were absolute tripe. How they have got 8 points is beyond me
By far the worst team I have seen in a long time(apart from us)
It was quite worrying though how much we dropped off in the 2nd half,to not score a try in the 2nd half against a crap team is worrying,maybe it's with playing without a stand off,I don't know.We were at least 20 points better than them on the first half alone'"
I'd be tempted to throw Brook in. By all accounts he had ANOTHER storming game at HB today. Addy just isn't working at 6. The play is so slow and breaks down completely. Agree about us dropping off, but perhaps nerves played a part. Got to keep improving now.
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| It looks to me like we're a team thats forgotten how to win
Hence, taking the two when we were 16-6 up - even though that would have only got us a draw had Wakey come back with two converted tries. As it happened we got another penalty to push us out to three scores, but there was no way to know that at the time. I'm sure its simply the lack of confidence after so many losses, but it looked like we went into our shell rather than put Wakefield to the sword, as we should have done.
In the end 20-12 ended up looking like a much closer game than it was. We were actually far better than Wakefield, and something like 26-6 (at least) would have been a fairer reflection of the balance of play.
It's amazing to think that if we - by some miracle - got our points back and then beat Salford (not at all impossible given Salfords form) we could be 4th from bottom after the next round of games
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| Reading a lot of negative comments since the game... Isn't there an element of not playing our best and still getting the win??
Agree that we were a much better side with Disko... Boy do I miss Heath Le'strange!!
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| Quote ="melly88"Reading a lot of negative comments since the game... Isn't there an element of not playing our best and still getting the win??
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True but we probably won't play a worse team than Wakey until the last game of the season when we play London. We have some crucial games coming in the next few weeks, the more "winnable" games, but all the teams are reasonably strong. We have to play much better and alter a few things and i think that is what most posters are getting at.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"True but we probably won't play a worse team than Wakey until the last game of the season when we play London. We have some crucial games coming in the next few weeks, the more "winnable" games, but all the teams are reasonably strong. We have to play much better and alter a few things and i think that is what most posters are getting at.'"
Completely agree with that... Put in a much more constructive way
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| Quote ="melly88" Isn't there an element of not playing our best and still getting the win?? '"
Agreed, but reality is that we are going to need to step it up at least one or two notches if we are to beat the 'middle ranking' teams - the teams like Hull KR and Widnes that we absolutely must beat to have any hope of avoiding relegation.
It's not being 'negative' to think that we are going to have to improve on what we saw today - although I'm sure we are all very grateful for the win and the improvement over the last few matches.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"It looks to me like we're a team thats forgotten how to win
Hence, taking the two when we were 16-6 up - even though that would have only got us a draw had Wakey come back with two converted tries. As it happened we got another penalty to push us out to three scores, but there was no way to know that at the time. I'm sure its simply the lack of confidence after so many losses, but it looked like we went into our shell rather than put Wakefield to the sword, as we should have done.
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Taking the two at 16-6 up was the right call. Might not change how many tries wakefield needed to score but it puts much more pressure on the goal kicker. It also means the option of a drop goal would have meant wakefield needed to score 3 more tries which they were never going to do.
I thought we came out fired up in first half and were the much better team deserving of the 16-0 lead. Also looked a lot better with kafusi and manu on.
Wakefield looked a poor side but came out much stronger in 2nd half. We looked flat until the kear moor clash, and that got us up again.
Personally i never thought we looked like losing, but i was expecting a little bit more from wakefield.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The main stand wasn't even half full.'"
There were quite a few gaps near my seat, people who are regular attenders who didn't show.
It is June now though, and a fair few folk will have their jollies booked and much as I love summer rugby that was always going to be the downside.
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| Having had a while to think about it, the most encouraging thing for me was just how bad Wakey actually are. Of course I have already said I now think it's pretty much impossible for us to stay up, and if we don't string together the wins it will make no odds, but at least we can be sure Wakey won't be winning many more this year.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Having had a while to think about it, the most encouraging thing for me was just how bad Wakey actually are. Of course I have already said I now think it's pretty much impossible for us to stay up, and if we don't string together the wins it will make no odds, but at least we can be sure Wakey won't be winning many more this year.'"
But I don't want them to be [ithat[/i bad, in case they sack Agar.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Having had a while to think about it, the most encouraging thing for me was just how bad Wakey actually are. Of course I have already said I now think it's pretty much impossible for us to stay up, and if we don't string together the wins it will make no odds, but at least we can be sure Wakey won't be winning many more this year.'"
Were they any worse than you were against Cats? I find it hard to believe, yet you managed to turn it around within a week. I am enjoying the Wakey board though.
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| That is one of the interesting side effects of the points deduction for the SL, it could well mean that a side with a worse team, a worse ground, and fewer supporters gets to stay up?
What we need is a few more of the "never say die performances" we put in against Wire in a handful of the games we aren't expected to win to put the pressure on Wakey and Salford - the two teams we still have a chance of overhauling
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| Quote ="tigertot"Were they any worse than you were against Cats? I find it hard to believe, yet you managed to turn it around within a week. I am enjoying the Wakey board though.'"
My take on it is that we aren't actually [ithat[/i bad, but for some inexplicable reason, we frequently play as if we are. Whereas Wakey [iare[/i that bad, but have on odd occasions played above themselves to scrape unfeasible wins.
We were several orders worse against Catalans and on other occasions, than Wakey were on Sunday.
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| I guess all fans tend to look at their own team first and consider [ithe best[/i performances as "how good they [ireally[/i are" and all the other, somewhat less convincing, shows as just aberrations from this nebulous 'norm' which doesn't really exist. Using that principle, I suppose we think we are much better than Wakey and, no doubt, they feel they are much better than us.
To be honest, it depends on how you turn up and play on the day. In all truth we are not in the same class as Warrington but, on the day, we played to our potential and Wire, for whatever reason, dropped way below theirs and we took the points. Listening to interviews of the Wire squad they seem to be suggesting that they 'disrespected' us, well fine, whatever, but it just shows that if you 'turn up to play*' you always have a chance.
* I define 'turn up to play' as being willing to treat each game as cup final - if we want to stay up, points back or not, that is what we need.
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| What's with the announcer by the way? Very unprofessional and irritating chelping up during the game every 5 minutes, whats that all about?
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| He make me laugh. I like him.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"What's with the announcer by the way? Very unprofessional and irritating chelping up during the game every 5 minutes, whats that all about?'"
It's Alex Simmons, the DJ from the Rugby League radio show Rugby AM. They have players on as guests every time the show is on, I think it must be getting quite popular as they recently recorded their first tv version of the show.
It's just a bit of banter really, not taking things too seriously and just having a laugh where he can. As evidenced by that obstacle course race at half time and his attempt to 'tackle' the guy who was winning!
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"What's with the announcer by the way? Very unprofessional and irritating chelping up during the game every 5 minutes, whats that all about?'"
He is very annoying. The only positive is that I can't make out a word he is saying.
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| If I'm honest it sounds like they've handed the mike to some guy in the pub. The people around me seem to find him a bit embarrassing.
Never thought I'd say it but if anyone feels like getting a, 'Bring back Steve Long' petition started and needs a seconder, I'm your man.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"If I'm honest it sounds like they've handed the mike to some guy in the pub. The people around me seem to find him a bit embarrassing.'"
Ditto, it's like a fan is doing it or something out of Pheonix Nights. The atmosphere yesterday should have spoken for itself.
I can take or leave the pre-match/half-time wittering (at the moment, very much in the leave camp), but "banter" from the PA during the match is disrespectful to the teams slogging their guts out on the pitch IMO.
It's very similar to the match announcers at some lower league clubs, so at least we are prepearing in some aspects
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| I think the announcer is very good,leave him alone
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| Quote ="roger daly"I think the announcer is very good,leave him alone'"
What did he say, send all Romanians home?
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| The guy's got verbal diarrhoea. Mind there was a lad on The Pulse this morning who was equally dreadful. Must be a new trend with radio people.
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| A [inew [/i trend?
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| Quote ="tigertot"What did he say, send all Romanians home?'"
Now that would definately get my vote
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