Paul Cooke as player/coach! Hell has well and truly frozen over.

Jimmy Lowes for me with Nobby helping him

Time to go Mr Cummins. Quite clearly you are utterly out of your depth. Your team do not seem to want to play for you and you quite clearly cannot arrest the slide.

I get that you stuck with us through thin and thinner. I could also hazard a guess that you did not exactly have very many offers arriving on your doorstep.

I also get that we are stifled with the lack of funding and have a thin squad.

However, clearly you are getting nowhere near enough out of the squad of players you have at your disposal. Your record is absolutely appalling. You are failing miserably.

Just not good enough. Nowhere near it. If you have any dignity then you will resign. If not, Mr Green has his first tough rugby based decision to make.

As soon as possible.

If we go down - and that looks a certainty, I would get Noble back as he has seen a lot of the championship as a commentator last year. I as many have backed Franny for his loyalty but he does look like a young coach who has no idea how to motivate a team. We now appear to be rudderless.
It is all now up to Green and the advice from Ferres as to whether Franny stays. Seventeen games left so who in their right mind would sign for 17 games unless you are currently not playing. It is now obvious why Cats kicked Fakir out.
Has Green already accepted being relegated? The damage was done before he joined so I wouldn't blame him. He might want to save his money for a new coach and players in the championship next year and have a completely fresh start.

Henry paul/Jimmy lowes---they'll do for me---if possible.

One coach comes to mind who saved Wigan from the bottom and one with the passion required to kick start a revival. Cannot understand how we have totally lost all belief in the team when we have a lot of the original squad. As been proved at Castleford, attitude counts for a lot.

I completely agree. Today there were certain members of the squad with their heads down after the first Wigan try. Breaking that attitude is down to the coach.

It's going to be hard to disagree with you.

i agree too!

Christ. It must be worse than I thought.

I don't know for sure if FC is the problem but it his group of men that have let the club down badly today. No excuse for throwing in the towel and some really tough questions need answers this week.

I would hope Marc Green/Steve Ferres intend to get to the bottom of the cause of today's appalling effort. We can excuse losing due to the lack of skill and size in our side but we cannot accept a total lack of fight.

Marc Green expects the fans to turn up to watch like that every week? The man has some serious thinking to do to protect his 'investment'!

If he doesnt get rid of Franny, i really hope he brings in some kind of additionl coaching staff, defence is non existent at the minute...i reckon Wibsey warriors would have beaten the team today,

Hard to disagree with everyone.... Only thing I might add is the assistant coaches have got to go as well!

I think the club fm should either back cummins with a proper coaching set up and signings (if it means unsettling players and playing dirty then so be it). Or get rid and bring in their own man but they have to do something.

Eddie for new coach?

He gets my vote, with FA as his assistant

It would seem apparent form both the squad selected and the performance that the club is targeting it's matches. Whilst being realistic in our position I'm afraid I will also be following suit. Glad I didn't get a season ticket.

Post match comments from Cummins



I've been a Cummins supporter, but do people agree that those comments look like the words of someone who has basically lost the plot? His comments barely made sense, and it defies credibility to use phrases like 'probably way off' and 'not quite there' when we've conceded 84 points

And if we had 'a real dig' I hate to think what the score would have been if they'd slacked off

fc is a top bloke and his conduct when we weren't even paying him means he'll always have my total respect.... There's clearly a but coming.

I agree with you that those quotes smack of delusion. It's similar to the things macca came out with that only serve to irritate us.

Sounds like a guy afraid to upset the dressing room even more

How many regulars did Wigan have missing? Come on Greene, you said you wanted to be judged by your actions so lets see some.

John Kear, Matty Elliott, Brian Noble all seem a much better bet than Cummins, who has quite obviously nothing more to offer.
I would like Elliott back as first choice, with possibly Lowes and Morrison as his assistants.
Get Scruton back from Wakey as he's getting bagged by their fans every week, and would probably jump at it to come back now we are more stable.
Look at a good aussie stand off or scrum half (preferably in the Trent Barrett mould), to steer us around, Give gale a run at Dewsbury (if they will have him).
Otherwise we are resigned to Championship next season.
I really can't see any other option.

But there isn't enough money to pay off the current coach.

Never mind to sign up that lot.

How much would it cost and how much is available?

I miss Mick Potter! He was a guy who really knew how to get the best out of his squad.