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| Quote ="Bullnorthern"So you have your doubts about OK-- Doubts that are enough to make the statement that he is WORSE than his predecessors. The hood regime took us to the point of oblivion -- that is a fact not a doubt. The only thing WORSE would be oblivion itself.
Your assertion that you never said this regime lies is contradicted by your OP -- unless the words " force feed us half truths & complete fabrication" means something else north of the border . You deny that you ever said this management were the culprits and the agents of this misinformation. Re-read your OP -- the only people you cite are the current management so how are we supposed to interpret the comment as anything other than another charge against OoK and his team.'"
TBH, there is little I can do if you wish to interpret my post incorrectly.
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| Quote ="Number11"I thougt you might like to talk about a club in trouble a bit nearer to home you know in a pub with real people instead of moaning on here all the bl**dy time.'"
Well if you don't want to read it why did you come into this thread? Nobody is forcing you to do so.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"
The players on the pitch will always get my full support........
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What, even when they have got their just desserts with relegation? I'm sure that would warm their hearts
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What, even when they have got their just desserts with relegation? I'm sure that would warm their hearts'"
I have no issue with the players. They are doing their best in difficult circumstances. The club itself is not deserving of an SL place IMO. We are lucky to have kept it and, if we were to lose it then it would not exactly be unjust.
Not too difficult a concept to grasp now is it FA?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I have no issue with the players. They are doing their best in difficult circumstances. The club itself is not deserving of an SL place IMO. We are lucky to have kept it and, if we were to lose it then it would not exactly be unjust.
Not too difficult a concept to grasp now is it FA?'"
Not at all, it's instantly recognisable as what we call a "lunatic concept". I imagine it's a bit like dyslexia must be; the words are all real, but in the order written, they appear to make no sense.
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Except, so far as I'm aware, at the moment, nobody, at all, is attacking us? That's the weirdest thing. Your whole argument, whilst referring correctly to some historical stuff, doesn't seem to apply to OK Bulls, or 2013?
Nonsense. The breaches were not of significance such as would have made any difference to the team, and one of them was only a technical breach due to something being interpreted in a different way after the event.
You just ruined your case. Otherwise how did we get and maintain that fantastic run of success, when even on your arguument, we were within all salary cap etc rules in every other of those years?
Couldn't disagree more, and Casiley/Hood is history now, but sticking to your point, where are these widespread attacks on OK that are 'becoming harder to defend'? Have I missed them all?
Who cares?
Who cares?
I think that's nonsense, not that they're perfect, but where are these attacks on them that are becoming harder to defend? I must have missed those too.
Ah, there we have it. YOU and YOU ALONE know "THE TRUTH" and you feel perfectly free, without naming names, to impliedly dismiss anyone who disagrees with any of your pronouncements as within your purely invented block-category of "blind fans". This is a common tactic of yours, to denigrate in advance of any reply, by association anyone who disagrees with what you claim.
Who are they?
To what are their blind eyes being turned?
Why are we "sliding more into the gutter"? Can you express what it is you mean?
Your choice.
You will note that I have raised a number of points and asked a number of questions. You will note that nowhere despite your paranoia have I done the slightest bit of castigating.
I would say the opposite. We have been one of the leading clubs, and most fans like us and would want to keep us. As evidenced by the waves of support we had in time of trouble. And speaking as someone who actually goes to games, and speaks to opposition fans, and shares a beer with them, I do not find any of this in real life. Of course people have strong views about single issues, and individuals - for example many chairmen of many clubs are deeply unpopular - but as a club? No, not at all.
Another fault. Self-appointed spokesman for all people.
Personally I find your claim "no-one likes" us to be fatuous and totally inaccurate. No doubt you can back it up?
To which O you are perfectly entitled, however odd that O is for a so-called "fan". Personally, I find the idea that a "fan" would think our players getting relegated is "just desserts" inexplicable. So maybe you mean if we get relegated, then the MANAGEMENT would be getting its "just desserts"? But whatever your views of management may be, and whether relegation would be a kick in the teeth for them, why would a "fan" who hated the management think there was any "just desserts" about the TEAM he is supposed to be a "fan" of being relegated? Or even if there was, surely your main concern as a "fan" is the team? Surely, however much you may hate and despise any management, that should not override your support for the team? I have always supported my team, not the management which is always transient, and, if it's OK with you, will continue to support my team.'"
Well done FA you have my vote as the prosecutor of the bigot with an over-sized opinion...very well reasoned arguments. On another subject Friday nights game contained much of what we have been missing over these last few years??
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"TBH, there is little I can do if you wish to interpret my post incorrectly.'"
Or indeed if you want to post utter rubbish
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"Well done FA you have my vote as the prosecutor of the bigot with an over-sized opinion...very well reasoned arguments. On another subject Friday nights game contained much of what we have been missing over these last few years??'"
Bigot??????
Out of order. I don't care what people may think but that is quite different.
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| Quote ="herr rigsby"Or indeed if you want to post utter rubbish'"
But of course. After all, you did not think that you had a monopoly on this now did you?
PS. Learn to use the quote facility properly.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"But of course. After all, you did not think that you had a monopoly on this now did you?
PS. Learn to use the quote facility properly.'"
After reading the posts I think you are in a monopoly of one, but I could be wrong and be reading the quote facility wrong.
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| Re original question -
Personally I hate St. Helens the most !
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| I've never really had a genuine dislike of any of the clubs, apart from Huddersfield, and even that's only because of the situation that's come to light recently.
I suppose I've always disliked Leeds, but that's just a rivalry thing.
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| I don't know, I go away on holiday for a few days and come back to all this. Time for some moderation!
I think this has run its course.
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