All I am saying is that if you recognise messing about at the PTB you would have seen Bradford's contribution instead of blaming the ref. Bradford's wingeing is embarassing.

Can you please find one post anywhere that blames the ref for Bradford losing?

I am not saying that you are blaming the ref for losing. I am saying that the Bradford criticism of the ref is one eyed and incorrect.

So you are saying that we are blaming the ref,but not for losing the game as we are only criticizing him for his performance?

You Wigan fans are all cock-a-Hoop at present but come business end of the season you will be blaming all and sundry for your downfalls

I am not cock-a-hoop at all. I am actually quite level headed and realistic that October is a long way off and anything can happen. I am talking purely about today's game and the referee. I actually think that your analysis and wingeing about the ref is a one eyed and incorrect analysis. Perhaps your attempt to change the subject signals that you have run out of defence of your view of the ref.

How do you defend a view of a ref? We saw one thing. You obviously saw something else. What is there to defend?

He was bobbins. He was bobbins last time we had him. I'm not sure what else there is to say.

You yourself said he missed loads of offsides, forward passes and lying on. So you tank that's the sign of a good referee do you?

Nope he's saying Wigan should have had a boat load more pens as Bradford laid on all game.

He's also having a pop at Bulls fans for moaning about the ref's performance

Very contradicting :s

This troll is obviously a genius and we should bow down in support of his superior knowledge. Roby was utter garbage as usual today, but he did'nt miss tackles like we did in the first half. The problem I have is the dirty grapple tactics that Wigan employed for the whole game today. Raking across the face in several tackles, kneeling in and lying on. In 11 rounds prior to this game, no team has adopted those tactics. Havent seen a game this year like that (even when we get beat).

They're easily the best team in the league at the moment. Just cut out the rubbish!

The Refs cop it what ever standard played, the latest from Oz www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2hu1g.html

The Refs cop it what ever standard played, the latest from Oz www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2hu1g.html

I moved where I was stood three times yesterday in order not to be near some one eyed ignoramus more interested at shouting at the ref' than seeing the game. The trouble was you can't get away from it.

There were two balls on the pitch at one point. The ref stops the game. The Wigan player about to play the ball drops it while the game is stopped. Half the people around me go mental calling for a knock on. You hear one lone voice explaining the game has been stopped and he's silenced by a chorus of "It doesn't matter! It doesn't matter! He dropped it! He dropped it!"

Not only have you deleted at least a page of my eruditions & scores you have deleted my post from last night telling you about it. It's a tough one this week, no obvious candidates. Though I gather that Bradford lost, they were shocking & would have lost anyway, but will spend 90% of the posts moaning about Roby.

A cracking Hull derby last weekend. Friday night saw FC beaten by the Whinge-masters of Wigan thanks to having no goal kicker. Still it didn't stop their coach blaming the ref, followed by the inmates of West Hull with the IQ of a cod backing him up. Not to be outdone, Sanderpenis blames the officials for the East half of Hull's thrashing by the humble Rhinos. I can't remember why but I've decided to give this week's award to HKR, who make their debut in the table.
Special mention to Classy Cas. They failed to beat 14 man Salford & have the lack of grace to blame the officials. As Salford are the next RFL darlings (when they stop loving Bratfut) they are beyond criticism.

Possibly a crisis this weekend withbarely a murmur of dissatisfaction from the Whinge World. Step forward FA with another world class attempt of physics defying photoshop, Lee Harvey Oswald did it, logic.
I think that makes it:
Wigan Whingers 3
Powell's Classy Cas 3
FA Bulls 3

I have not seen the game, but I am pretty sure that we were cheated by the ref anyway. So does that get us an extra point? Maybe two seeing as I have no evidence?

Powell's classy cas

Not seeing the game is a pre-condition.

The cold hard evidence proved it was not a knock on. Just deal with it, and move on.

I'm always happy to accept any evidence which matches my pre-conceived ideas and proves I was correct all along..

Did you defend the 4 Los Angeles police who beat, sorry defended themselves, Rodney King using the same evidence?

Thought FA operated in the British, and specifically English, court....

I thought it was a different planet.

Oddly enough, no. But since you weirdly brought it up, it is people like you, not me, who are capable of ignoring plain image evidence. It's all very well disbelieving a theory, but it takes a closed mindset to continue to disbelieve when presented with compelling image evidence. Of course the Addy incident is a mere trivia, and nothing at all to remotely compare with King, and I wonder why you raised that sickening case, but there were plenty whose eyes saw the images of the beating he took, but whose minds didn't register it.

I raised it because the defence infamously manipulated real time visual evidence to distort the truth of what happened. Sadly, it worked for them, but not for you.

No, what's sad is that you are so blinkered that you refuse to accept the evidence of UNMANIPULATED screen grabs. Your accusation of manipulation, and compounding it with falsely posting I did this "to distort the truth", really is beneath contempt, I am surprised at you, and I object to it. Those are the images that were on Sky.

I have looked at your grabs on a couple of occsaions & cannot make sense of them in isolation. I am as convinced by them as I am of photos of the Loch Ness Monster. I have watched replays of the action on a few occasions & still believe it to be a knock on.
Nevertheless, I didn't set out to offend & suggest you doctored anything (Definition of manipulation: General: Artful, expert, or skilled handling of an implement or situation). I am sorry if it did cause you offence.