The worry is that Asian businesses tend to operate on a low overhead high profit system of trading and the higher cost of most business is labour and they make sure thats as cheap as it can be. So Sport with high overheads inc labour and little profit is not going to cope well with the Asian business ethos.

Do you not think that's due to the market those businesses traditionally operate in rather than the ancestry of their owners?

one thing they will do is look at revenue and make sure expenditure is less than that, if that means spending well under the salary cap the next coach will have recruit players of value and promote the youngsters from the academy

perhaps the off field operation can subsidise the on field? Just like CC planned when we came back to ODsal and built the coral stand.

Why is it that no-one seems to have the appetite to do the decent thing and reform as a new club in CC1 with more input from the supporters rather than stay in SL at any cost?

I guess most clubs aspire to be in SL. If we can stay in SL without going into liquidation then we will be doing the decent thing. If liquidation happens then I reckon staying in SL is unlikely anyway.

Simple answer - we would never get back into SL if we dropped out...

Actually I wasn't

Whatever we think about Caisley and co they did know how to run a rugby team. Or were those five consecutive Grand Finals just a figment of my imagination?

What they [ididn't[/i know is how to run a business - as the current shambles bears adequate testimony.

I'd certainly welcome fresh input and ideas from our (hopefully) new investors, but I still think they'll need some rugby people running the playing side - whether its Duffy, Duckett, Tasker, Caisley or whoever. The report in the Guardian strongly suggests that 'previous directors' are involved in this somewhere along the line, so I can only assume that some or all of the above are going to end up back at the helm of the [urugby side[/u (my emphasis) with the Asian consortium handling the business / finance / marketing side.

Why not?
If the public supported a Championship team and it did the job on the pitch then there is no reason not to get back in is there, unless you are suggesting that Super League is a closed shop as our friends from Halifax and Keighley have been saying for years.

Correct - Bradford is not expansion and the RFL have long stated expansion is their aim. If the Bulls did drop down the crowds would suffer and those that stay away will get there SL fix elsewhere, just like fax/cougar fans all them years ago.....

SL is a must

.....but not a right...or shouldn't be anyway

Expansion at SL level is finished for the forseeable future,even London are at deaths door. CC1 is the new expansion zone with the four new expansion teams entering the fray for next year to replace the top four this season who will be promoted to the Championship.

Like those penny pinching football club owners?

One thing no one has yet mentioned is the possible boost the involvement of an Asian business could give to the club and RL in general. As yet, and I suspect for cultural reasons, the number of Asian fans and players is very low and the community is an (almost) untapped resource. If such a large number of people could be tempted to 'give the game a go' as spectators, maybe it could lead to more of them being players.

do you want to gamble our future on that?. strong rumours going round that big four (leeds,wire,wigan and sts) are in favour of toulouse getting our franchise should we get liquidated.

I find it hard to believe that Leeds would vote for that.

think its only in the case of us getting liquidated. If we go newco route then assume they'd vote to keep us in. Think their going down route of getting a 2nd french club in is preferable to bringing fax or fev up.

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like way guilfoyle takes credit for getting 10k to turn up. Think that would many would have turned up regardless of any input he had.

I'd rather gamble our future on a fan owned club starting in CC1 than gamble our future on Mr X with unknown reasons for buying the club if he /they are not supporters or RL people. I just think that the Super League at all costs attitude is not the way to go, unless of course we are all glory fans?

problem is that like it or not we need the glory fans to keep turning out to make us economically viable. the likes of you and me would carry on going irrespective of whether we were in SL or CC1. But I seriously doubt the club could survive at CC1 level in any recognisable form. Strip away all our current players plus bulk of youth teams, who would be snapped up by other SL teams, and whats left. A drop down the leagues wouldnt be for ayear or two til the next licensing period then us coming straight back up. It would be for 5+ years and the support we'd shed could easily condemn us to being stuck at that level permanently.

mmmm making the coaches redundant and keep banging on about how we may not get through this, was maybe his way of encouraging fans to come to the game.

I think we have averaged over 12k fans this season anyway, and no doubt if he wasnt the administrator he would we would have got over 10 anyway, think alot fans used tickets as we have given enough to the club, by pledging and donation ino i have, and the £20 we pay to get in more likely went to pay his fees.

light at end of tunnel?

It's probably a train coming!

RFL all over, fetch a team in that brings 50 or so fans to away games. That should help average attendance figures. Be better fetching a team in from the Middle East .

Hasn't he also stated only 2000 of the 10000 paid on the day.