Nope, Whitehead is guilty of slipping off tackles and I think he struggles to cope against an agile centre.

Hmm. I wonder for those Bulls fans who visited our super dooper new stadium whether they would agree with you or with me after tonight?

For a multimillion pound brand new stadium it was terrible to be there tonight, and my team won.

I couldnt understand why they missed the sides off? Lol .. Great atmosphere from our fans despite what we were watching, but the rain /wind was everywhere. You would think spending so much money on the stadium, a bit of plastic on the sides would have been money well spent. Needed wellies on queuing for food tonight!. Potential to be a very nice stadium though.

You ask the same question most Saints fans are asking! It is a complete mystery to all of us why the sides were not clad. There was some discussion about doing it following the first swim around the concourse but nothing happened. A shame really as the lack of protection really spoils the experience.

I thought your fans were great. It was an horrendous night to travel the M62, your team were clearly still in Bradford and yet I didn't see any of you leave early and you kept on singing. You all did a great job.

Little bit worried about mr gale

Maybe they'll do it in the off season??

I think after these last few months there's far worse could happen to us than getting a bit of a thrashing.. On the whole we've had a fairly good season. At the moment there's nothing we can do but support the club & enjoy the rugby ( or lack of it from tonight )

He didnt look very interested tonight & didnt seem to organise very well..

I think some of you on here need your eyes testing. Except 2 or 3 kicks Gale split the Fullback and Winger everytime, it was Addy from hooker who kicked it directly at Wellens/Makinson.

I think Gale needs to sort his kick off out though, absolute e. I'm starting to miss Ah Van's kickoffs.

Whitehead is not a centre, he can fill in against 'lower' teams but as you can see with most of his decision making he is not a centre, keep him in the back row.

Im getting sick of us kicking high all the time on the 5th, why not try a chipkick or a grubber into the in goal area, don't rely on Pryce or Whitehead scoring from kicks.

Also what happened to tackling low?

Memories going then

But I still think that Gale's kicking was awful. Missing from touch was poor when if we wanted to avoid humiliation we really needed to be fighting for every inch. Agree about kick offs aswell. Think I'm right in saying Bateman took a few whilst Gale was out, and they were alot more dangerous.

Bring back Sykes

This game was almost a carbon copy of the Hudds game. BK & Kear are our only good FB's. If we lose both of them we are screwed.

The kicking game was generally poor.

Some players did not seem to have their heads in the game - ?due to quick turnaround, ? due to injuries catching up, ?due to off-field issues catching up, ?their heads were already in Ibiza (team already given week off this week).

Gave the game a miss. The vibes coming from the coach and players before the game were just too negative.

I'm glad someone else saw that! I thought Gale had a great long kicking game.

Well yeah, in all fairness though I wanted to watch his kicking game to see if he had learnt from the last game and I thought it was good.

Well the first visit to the bespoke Langtree Park, won't be living long in the memory as an grand occasion.

Certainly not even on the scale, when put against the Bulls first games at the DW Stadium (Wigan 12-12 Bradford) or the KC Stadium (Hull FC 20-26 Bradford) for that matter.

Interestingly up until the 21st minute (score 4-0 St Helens) this one was competitive. Although Bradford's fragile confidence - clinically deteriorated as St Helens applied the vigour and sustained purpose, meaning in the end, this match was effectively nothing more than an training exercise for the home side.

Just watched last nights Sky game. After listening to both coaches its quite clear that our lads won't be checking-in for their holiday flights alongside any Leeds or Wire players. Interesting.

Tbh I may have been harsh regarding my worry. He started a lot of the good stuff in the Cas game and his inside pass was great for kearneys first try. That said I don't recall him making a break. Maybe Sammut as a partner would give him more space

I thought his kicking game against Cas was pretty good, regularly turned them around, last night hid long range kicking was pretty good too. It's his defence that needs some work IMO

What you been sniffing Mick? Are you after Stuart Hall's job?

Unfortunately that would be the wrong sport Brian.

We were shot and injuries had caught up with us. You could see the seeds of this in the performance versus Cas when we decided not to bother defending. Against a better side we were always going to pay the price eventually. In attack with a lack of fit forwards we were going to struggle and behind a pack going nowhere any half would struggle.

Gale seems to be getting some flak but he didn't have much to work behind. We were also without Purtell, Kearney, Kear, Sammut and Crookes who have all looked good in attack this season so the quality of his options and runners wasn't the best. Pryce looks out of form and Ainscough tries but isn't the greatest. Only Lulia is anything approaching quality out of the whole backline. Gale remember came from London and wasn't exactly top quality there so I'm not sure what people are expecting. He's solid and behind a pack holding their own is decent enough. He'll do for me.

He'll do is not really good enough though, I mean we've got what we've got and he is what we have got so we will have to make do with it, but I couldn't say "he'll do" for me personally. Marc Herbert could have done, but we need more. We need a intelligent crafty HB that makes good decisions and gets players in the right position. I'm just not sure that's Luke Gale. I think BJ is a better scrum half and I would play him until we find or develop better, personally.

I think it is fair to say that Gale has been inconsistent since he returned from injury. I think he was initially still struggling with his injury but you would hope that he would be somewhere close to full fitness now. When he signed we knew that his defence was a weakness and he doesn't seem to have improved that area of his game so far.

He has shown some good stuff as well and I wouldn't write him off as not good enough just yet. I think from the teams point of view we will look better with Sammut at 6 and either Gale or BJ at 7. I think Gale and BJ are both quite similar players and neither are quick enough to trouble good defences.

Why dont we bid £500k for Tomkins and make him highest paid player in super league? Oh yeah, I forget, we havenet got any money!!!

Gale is doing OK in a struggling side

Oh yes it was; at least in the North stand.

Pretty much agree with that. Thing to remember as well is that gale/ Jeffries wasn't considered as a pairing in preseason. To be fair their games are too similar and don't really complement each other. Think sammut is seen as more natural standoff. Makes next years recruitment interesting.